You thought you had a Floppy B

[oniman7]

So I ran across this band I had never heard of and decided to try listening to them. They are progressive metal and the trend is to have 8 string guitars and 6 string basses and drop tune them. Check out that shot at 0:41... his string looks like a wet noodle. Pretty cool bass lines and he manages to make it sound alright, but I couldn't help but laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen

Side note, I can't often tell the bass line from the low guitar part.

[Profania_bass]

Aahh Hacktivist, what a band. What a floppy string. I like what's coming out of the UK with this while progressive metal movement recently.

[Fenwick]

Beyond Creation. 8 string guitar, 6 string fretless. Uberflop from about 1:50 for both instruments and a sweet bass solo to boot around 4:17.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0MkJtI3FvU

[thedudebrah]

That "slow-mo floppy string" is all over metal and hardcore videos.

Liferuiner. Gibson Ripper bass, I think they play in C, not sure.

http://youtu.be/VJ9G0u-tFMg

[NelsonNelson]

I have a floppy D...

[Wallace320]

Originally Posted by oniman7

So I ran across this band I had never heard of and decided to try listening to them. They are progressive metal and the trend is to have 8 string guitars and 6 string basses and drop tune them. Check out that shot at 0:41... his string looks like a wet noodle. Pretty cool bass lines and he manages to make it sound alright, but I couldn't help but laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen

Side note, I can't often tell the bass line from the low guitar part.

And I agree with floppy B string, but how can an ESP/LTD B 206 do better than that?

I play a full step downtuned, but, IME the revered Yamaha RBXJM2, for instance, couldn't do any better, I assure you.


No more 6ers in my stable, yet both 5ers (G&L L2500 carved and Peavey Cirrus BXP5: Yamaha BBN5 is my brother's and it's regularly tuned) have killer Bs (sorry for the ironic wording)... Peavey in particular is very stable, but it's a 35" scale

Yet the 34" scale G&L is my favorite 5er so far (and I owned a few thru the years)

Then, remember Fieldy and its Soundgears (he's tuned A, D, G, C, F too) its floppy slap sound being probably one of Korn's unmistakeable trademarks!

So no particular problem with floppy strings (d'ya like tennis? try and find something about John McEnroe's string tension) as long as they sound good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m7njvwB-Ks

Cheers,
Wallace

[DwaynieAD]

my band plays in drop A. used to drop that far on my 4 string music man with the E string.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siAzD6wi78M

bass cam at 1:23 its not too floppy, but that is on the 5 string dropped to A

[Bobster]

I think we are seeing "rolling shutter effect" on the instrument strings in that video. It's a digital sensor processing error in digital cameras.

Here's a mild example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxzAaCKTCAY

It's also very noticeable on airplane propellers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVwmt...ture=fvwp&NR=1

Bob

[Fenwick]

I think we are seeing "rolling shutter effect" on the instrument strings in that video. It's a digital sensor processing error in digital cameras.

Rolling shutter is caused by side-to-side movement of cameras with CMOS chips. The video you linked incorrectly labels the effect as 'rolling shutter', even though the camera is stationary.

The effect your seeing, specifically with the videos you and I linked (and NOT the others) is caused by a high shutter speed, likely 1/1400 or higher. Because the sensor captures light/motion for a such a brief moment (1/1400th of a second) it can capture the strings full range of motion (oscillation) throughout a sequence and see what are eyes cannot.

In all seriousness, the OP's link had a floppy B, but both our links' effects are realted to shutter speed and not string tension (though Beyond Creation do tune their 8/6 strings down a full step).