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07-28-2004, 05:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northwest, Indiana | | | Is(Was) your bass teacher a guitarist?
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Is(Was) your bass teacher a guitarist? Mine is and I like him a lot, but I've heard other people say that they don't like guitarist bass teachers. What's your Beef?
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07-28-2004, 05:29 PM
| | | My bass teacher is a guitarist. He was a great guy, and for a short period of time I played in his band (but later I left). He taught me a lot of theory, like modes of scales, etc. which I really enjoyed. BUT, he couldn't teach me techniques like slapping or popping, so I had to learn those myself. Because I wasn't taught properly, my technique is probably terrible and unreversible. Luckily, now that my local L&M is giving lessons, I can finally have a bass teacher who actually plays bass!
Peace,
Graeme  | 
07-28-2004, 06:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montreal QC CA | | Same my teacher is guitarist/luthier who's been playing for 30 some years and plays with the likes of Alain Caron  So he teaches mostly theory and modes (which i have a hard time understanding) and when I don't feel like learning we Jam. He's like quasi Steve Vai calibur I tell ya! he's insane. I'm gonna start ear training when I go back. I just wish he could teach me technique and stuff cause I'm having trouble with the slap-double pop thing where it sounds like a triplet but you're slapping and then doing 2 pops really quickly... And I cant do the really fast slap thing, I believe you call them "thumb rolls" | 
07-28-2004, 07:03 PM
|  | No Longer Works a Day Job | | Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: USA | | Right now-i am the only "no" vote. My teacher also plays: tuba, trombone, euphonium, banjo, and string bass. He's a general low end guy vs. a guitar/bass only person. 
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07-28-2004, 07:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Knoxville, TN | | | I'm another no vote. My bass teacher graduated from university under the music program specializing in string and electric bass. As far as I know, all he plays is bass, and in addition to teaching is a working jazz bassist locally.
He's awesome, too. I feel pretty lucky.
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07-28-2004, 07:29 PM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Still in Margaritaville | | | I've had several teachers over the years. Two of those were primarly guitarists. The best teacher was the first chair double bassist in a symphony orchestra plus played electric guitar in a very successful rock band. The difference in the quality of instruction between the latter teacher and the two guitar specialists was dramatic.
I feel one huge difference was that the bassist loved the bass and had tremendous respect for what it could achieve and its place both in an orchestra setting or in a heavy metal band. He instilled that love in me and made me proud to be a bass player. He also knew of and respected many of the great bass players in several genres of music. He could appreciate their skills and basslines. I never got anything like that from the guitarists.
Another thing, the guitarists just weren't that well developed in terms of bass technique. Thye had some basic knowledge, yes, but a highly experienced bass player can just take skills so much further. They have a much deeper understanding of the instrument and know how to pass that on to a focused student.
I believe a guitarist can probably get a new student started. They can teach music reading and theory, some basic technique and a few fundamentals of bassline creation. But I feel if that student reaches a point at which he really wants to go on to the next level, there is nothing like having a teacher who has chosen the bass guitar or double bass as his primary instrument and has a more complex and highly developed sense of what the instrument can do.
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07-28-2004, 07:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Miami, FL | | | My first teacher was a classical guitarist. He really couldn't tell me more than what string was which and the mechanics of what frets do to the pitch... which I already knew. It even came to a point where he said it would be better if I got myself a teacher who was primarily a bassist.
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07-28-2004, 08:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Windsor, Ont, Canada | | | In the past maybe two, give or take a few months, years I have been taking lessons I have gone through 4 teachers. 1 bass player other guitar players. I really respect them all. They tought me so much. | 
07-28-2004, 11:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Pause My first teacher was a classical guitarist. He really couldn't tell me more than what string was which and the mechanics of what frets do to the pitch... which I already knew. It even came to a point where he said it would be better if I got myself a teacher who was primarily a bassist. | Clearly he wasn't a very good teacher at all then. He could've taught you everything a bass teacher does, short of technique and the proper perspective and role as a bassist.
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07-28-2004, 11:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lowell, MA, USA | | | My former teacher, Lucas Pickford, was (and is) a 6 string bass playing monster of a player.... and he admitted to me that he can't play guitar worth a damn, but he doesn't even own one, so that's okay. I think having a real bassist for a teacher is far, far better than a guitarist.. even using something like Musicdojo.com would be of more use than lessons from a guitar player, who is likely to start you off on the wrong foot, unless they are a true multi-instrumentalist.. just my .01 | 
07-29-2004, 07:26 AM
| | Bitten by the luthiery bug... | | Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Budapest, Hungary, EU | | | My teacher graduated from the Academy of Music as a DB-player and later learned BG, as well (you know, those kind of things were very rare in the Eastern block in those times).
I think its cool.
He's a very technical player and the other thing he emphasizes a lot is time - which are both very important to us bassists
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07-29-2004, 11:31 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Whitmoretucky MI | | | I did have a guitar/bass teacher. Very cool guy but no right hand technique to speak of! Also I feel you need a teacher that can get in your head and teach you how to think like a bass player, how to support a tune not rip crazy solos. | 
07-29-2004, 01:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA | | | my bass teacher is both bassist and classically-trained guitarist. | 
07-30-2004, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BassGod My bass teacher is a guitarist. He was a great guy, and for a short period of time I played in his band (but later I left). He taught me a lot of theory, like modes of scales, etc. which I really enjoyed. BUT, he couldn't teach me techniques like slapping or popping, so I had to learn those myself. Because I wasn't taught properly, my technique is probably terrible and unreversible. Luckily, now that my local L&M is giving lessons, I can finally have a bass teacher who actually plays bass!
Peace,
Graeme  | Ya he was a great Jazz guitarist by the name of Mark O Leary.Anyone know him?He too thaught me theory but I need technique lessons.
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08-02-2004, 09:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Medina, TN USA | | | My bass instructor does play guitar (and teaches beginning guitar), but he is first and foremost a bassist and bass instructor. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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