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12-01-2008, 12:55 PM
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Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | | Can someone with a nice DB make a short (1 second) recording?
I have an EUB, and have been playing with convolution reverb. If you're unfamiliar with this technology, it combines signal with another, in such a way that you can give an instrument the resonance of a space. People usually use it to sample the reverberation characteristics of a particular room or concert hall, but it can be used for other creative purposes too.
In my case, I would like to convolve my EUB with a DB, to get something a little more realistic. All that would be required is to record yourself tapping the soundboard. The clip only needs to be about a second long, since the "reverb" inside a DB's body is so short.
Quality is not a huge issue, so anybody with any kind of recording setup and a nice bass would be doing me a huge favor, and it would only take a couple seconds. Thanks for any help you can provide.
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12-09-2008, 10:15 PM
|  | ...or Jason, if you insist on vowels. | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Francisco Bay Area | | | Have you gotten any response on this yet?
By the way, what kind of EUB do you have? And how do you plan to deploy the convolution? In Logic, or something like that? |
12-10-2008, 02:41 PM
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Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | | No responses yet, unfortunately. I have an Ergo EUB. I'm not sure how specifically I'll convolve them - I use Plogue Bidule as my environment, which has extensive spectral capabilities, and I also have a convolution plugin by SonicBirth. It's a nice one because the files don't need to be impulse response format, just wav files.
I find it way too processor intensive for real reverb (when other plugins will do the job with way less CPU usage) but it's fun to convolve a piano with a ride cymbal, for example.
Anyone out there willing to help? You don't need a really expensive bass or fancy recording equipment. Anything would be better than nothing. |
12-10-2008, 05:34 PM
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Vice President: Upton Bass String Instrument Co. | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Warwick, RI & Stonington, CT | | Can I nominate DRURB?
Oh...I just did!  |
12-10-2008, 10:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada | | | This sounds really neat. I'd help out, but I don't think my Suzuki is quite what you've got in mind :P
I'd be interested to hear your results. |
12-10-2008, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by eroy  Can I nominate DRURB?
Oh...I just did! | Eh... I suspect some DB forum in-joke is being made...? Sadly, as a mere wannabe doublebassist, I don't know what you're talking about. But, being VP of a DB company, you must have plenty of the things lying about, yes? Perhaps you could help out here...?
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12-11-2008, 12:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: toronto canada | | | what do you want us to tap the soundboard with?
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12-11-2008, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by conical johnson Eh... I suspect some DB forum in-joke is being made...? | Actually no...no joke at all. Any humor in it was simply volunteering someone's time to do something! I just thought...based on what your trying to accomplish and DRURB's profession coupled with his quality of bass (ok, silently tooting my own horn here ) and his publicly proven ability to record said bass...that this is something he might be able to whip up for ya relatively easily. I'll PM him on thiis thread if he hasn't already seen it. |
12-11-2008, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by neal davis what do you want us to tap the soundboard with?
pm me | What the hell's a soundboard?
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12-11-2008, 07:12 AM
|  | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | Well, yes I do understand what you are trying to do. What you seem to want is a representation of the impulse response of a nice bass. Now, of course, when you convolve that response with your EUB, you probably know that the result will NOT sound like my bass. Ideally it will be your EUB played through my bass! I'll leave that to you. I'd be happy to record a tap of the top of my bass. One issue that will effect your results greatly is the position of the microphone that captures that tap. I could make a few different ones for you.
Now the best "tap" would be a very brief, powerful shot to the bass with a rather sharp object. Forget it!  I don't allow Dirac deltas anywhere near my bass (geek joke). I'll tap it for you.
PM me if you're interested.
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12-11-2008, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton What the hell's a soundboard? | Sometimes I use you guys as a sounding board. |
12-11-2008, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton What the hell's a soundboard? |
i think it's near the fret board and sits on top of the flux capacitor. just taking a wild stab.
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12-11-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by neal davis what do you want us to tap the soundboard with? | Lately my favourite bass-tapping implement is a Vic Firth American Custom T2 Cartwheel. I think its some kind of marching band drumstick.
The wooden head wrapped in dense felt makes a perfect substitute for the side of the thumb when tapping, whether checking for loose seams or tuning parts. |
12-11-2008, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by standupright i think it's near the fret board and sits on top of the flux capacitor. just taking a wild stab. | Oh. Is that anywhere's near your standup bases headstock?
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12-11-2008, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton Oh. Is that anywhere's near your standup bases headstock? | standup base 
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12-11-2008, 02:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | | that was supposed to be a joke.
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12-11-2008, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton that was supposed to be a joke. | "All your base are belong to us."
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12-11-2008, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton that was supposed to be a joke. | speak up.....i can't here ewe
anywho....i think it's on the other side near the talepeace.
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12-11-2008, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by standupright speak up.....i can't here ewe
anywho....i think it's on the other side near the talepeace. | I thoght that were the stringholder.
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12-11-2008, 05:43 PM
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