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Old 06-10-2008, 02:19 PM
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David Sanborn

Are there any David Sanborn fans here? I am a huge fan of his music – his sax skills amaze me! His new album “Here and Gone” is coming out on August 12th, which I cannot WAIT for since it’s been 3 years since the last album. Check him out if you haven’t done so already at http://www.myspace.com/davidsanbornband.

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Old 06-10-2008, 02:29 PM
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What an influential sound that guy has. He's a bit like Jaco that way -- not long after he came on the scene, almost all alto R&B solos had the Sanborn sound. He says he conceived the sound by copping aspects of Stevie Wonder's chromatic harmonica thing. Makes sense.

His son's a bass player.
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He made the Weather Channel what it is today.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:32 PM
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My favourite album is Port or Call.
Not the kind of music I prefer but he does it extremelly well.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:40 PM
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He made the Weather Channel what it is today.
LOL. Good one.

Dave Sanborn is way beyond most of the "pop alto" guys that came after him, IMHO. He has his own sound. I heard a track of him with Gil Evans, he was playing his a$$ off.
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Look for him on YouTube under the heading "nightmusic" or "night music" This was a show he hosted back on the 90's with slamming performances by everyone from LL Cool J to Jean Luc Ponty (same episode). All star house band included Marcus Miller who left & was replaced by Tom Barney. I wish this show was available on DVD.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:46 PM
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I've been a huge Sanborn fan since college. Got to see him live at the Zoo Ampitheater in Oklahoma City in '87 (Change of Heart tour). That guy is an amazing musician, and his band was fantastic as well. Marcus Miller, Hiram Bullock, sorry I don't remember who the drummer or keyboard player were.
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Are there any David Sanborn fans here? I am a huge fan
You posted the exact same **** at SaxOnTheWeb.net

I think you're a shill.

Too bad -- Sanborn doesn't need anybody else to blow his horn!
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[quote=Damon Rondeau;5840412]What an influential sound that guy has. He's a bit like Jaco that way -- not long after he came on the scene, almost all alto R&B solos had the Sanborn sound. He says he conceived the sound by copping aspects of Stevie Wonder's chromatic harmonica thing. Makes sense.QUOTE]

Swing and a miss.

Sanborn's "trademark sound" is Hank Crawford's "trademark sound." Only nobody today gets this. Because the Hank Crawfords of the world created genius and the David Sanborns of the world cash the checks.

Or, as Bob Wills sang,

"Little bee gets the pollen,
Big bee gets the honey,
Dark man picks the cotton,
White man gets the money."

Damon, I have tons of respect for your posts here over the years but, when it comes to the history of (African) American music, you missed the boat on this one.

Recalibrate.
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What an influential sound that guy has. He's a bit like Jaco that way -- not long after he came on the scene, almost all alto R&B solos had the Sanborn sound. He says he conceived the sound by copping aspects of Stevie Wonder's chromatic harmonica thing. Makes sense.QUOTE]

Swing and a miss.

Sanborn's "trademark sound" is Hank Crawford's "trademark sound." Only nobody today gets this. Because the Hank Crawfords of the world created genius and the David Sanborns of the world cash the checks.

Or, as Bob Wills sang,

"Little bee gets the pollen,
Big bee gets the honey,
Dark man picks the cotton,
White man gets the money."

Damon, I have tons of respect for your posts here over the years but, when it comes to the history of (African) American music, you missed the boat on this one.

Recalibrate.
Sanborn is clearly influenced by Hank Crawford, (a debt I've always heard him own up to) but like it or not he made his own thing out of it.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:40 PM
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Swing and a miss.

Sanborn's "trademark sound" is Hank Crawford's "trademark sound." Only nobody today gets this. Because the Hank Crawfords of the world created genius and the David Sanborns of the world cash the checks.

Or, as Bob Wills sang,

"Little bee gets the pollen,
Big bee gets the honey,
Dark man picks the cotton,
White man gets the money."

Damon, I have tons of respect for your posts here over the years but, when it comes to the history of (African) American music, you missed the boat on this one.

Recalibrate.
Well, I ain't going looking for the interview, but you'll note that I wrote "he says..." I know he's made the claim about the Stevie influence in at least one interview.

It's a good thing I'm just shooting the conversational sh*t here and not writing any kind of treatise on (African) American music. Otherwise I guess I'd be looking at the boat sailing away.

OR, I could do the most cursory of web searches and find Sanborn saying in a Downbeat interview: "Not that I'm offended by the description," he further explained to Mandel, "but I think the rhythmic orientation of what I do is not really jazz. Where I came from, the kind of musical context I grew up in, the kind of playing I did when I was a young player, and the way my playing formed was in more of a rhythm and blues context. The music that really made me want to become a musician was by Ray Charles. David Newman and Hank Crawford were the guys. They combined the sophistication, some of the harmonic sensibility, certainly the hipness, and the rhythmic undercurrent of jazz with the emotional directness of gospel and the structural elements of R&B." So it's not just you getting the Crawford thing, Keyser.

His Stevie claim is out there, too.

Geez -- all this for a guy I haven't really thought much about in 20 years. Not to mention a thread that has, as Sam points out, mysterious origins...
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:49 PM
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I've always appreciated Sanborn's Alto work and tone. And that goes all the way back to his teenage solo with the Paul Butterfield Blues Band ("In My Own Dream"). It was an inspiringly mature solo for an 18 or 19 year-old. I liked his collaborations with Marcus Miller, too in the 90's.

I play sax and harp with a blues band (bass with other bands) and often think about him when I am leaning into a good groove and trying to seduce the dancers.
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:45 AM
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He played on the Paul Butterfield Blues Band's "Better Days" album. Credited as "Little Davy Sanborn" IIRC.
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:32 AM
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LOL. Good one.

Dave Sanborn is way beyond most of the "pop alto" guys that came after him, IMHO. He has his own sound. I heard a track of him with Gil Evans, he was playing his a$$ off.
The other alto player in that section was Arthur Blythe...
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Look for him on YouTube under the heading "nightmusic" or "night music" This was a show he hosted back on the 90's with slamming performances by everyone from LL Cool J to Jean Luc Ponty (same episode). All star house band included Marcus Miller who left & was replaced by Tom Barney. I wish this show was available on DVD.
That was a cool program
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That was a cool program
This is my favorite moment from that show - Sonny Rollins baby!
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:06 PM
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The other alto player in that section was Arthur Blythe...
That's right, I forgot that. My buddy Joe Gallivan passed through that band around that time.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:52 AM
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I think he unfairly gets labeled as a "smoothe jazz" guy. As stated above, his roots are in RnB and the blues, but he also spent time with Julius Hemphill, Roscoe Mitchell, Oliver Lake and Tim Berne so he's got some experience with more progressive music.

Night Music is one of my favorite TV shows of all time. I believe he and Hal Wilner were responsible for the diverse and eclectic range of guests on that show. We'll probably never see a show like that again.

I picked up a used copy of a CD of his from 1999 called "Inside." Its a great disc to listen to in the car driving home from a gig late at night.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:02 AM
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Saw him in '91 when Another Hand came out. The band was Kenny Kirkland, Al Foster, Don Alias, and Charnette Moffett. Mr. Sanborn more than held his own with those guys. Also dig his playing on Tim Berne's Diminutive Mysteries (Mostly Hemphill). On sopranino, no less....

Not especially crazy 'bout most of his sides, but can't deny that he can play.
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