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Old 12-21-2012, 02:51 PM
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Outdoor gig in -16°C dergee cold

Am I crazy to play a carved bass at an outdoor gig next week in -16°C or so cold? The bass is pretty tough compared to others I've owned, is 2 years old with no cracks, and I plan to keep a wet dampit in it the whole time, and to slowly bring its temperature up and down on the gig day.
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There's not enough money to get me to play outdoors in those conditions.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:56 PM
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Keep water away from it, and then pass on the gig.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:15 PM
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I would be more concerned about how to play wearing mitts....
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:18 PM
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read this:

http://www.thingx.tv/articles/effect...rchestra-1018/
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:38 PM
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Yes, and after the gig you mak have to learn how to shim
cracks that may develop.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:49 PM
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Sorry, I should have been more clear.

I'm looking for info on the potential for damage to the instrument, not opinions on anything else.

Thanks!
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:53 PM
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I would never subject an instrument I cared about, or an amp, to those conditions.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:02 PM
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I think you're bass will "probably" come out OK, but if called on to play something like that I'd use my "beater" bass. I left one of my basses in the back of my sons car last year.......a week of below 0 degrees C. and after a slow warm up it was fine. But no guarantees.

You're right of course to slowly increase and decrease the temperature.

Your bass will "probably" work fine. I'm more interested in how you'll keep your hands working.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:49 PM
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I wouldn't take my bass guitar out in that kind of weather, much less my acoustic bass. I know you're not interested, but FWIW, about 25 years ago, I played outdoors in 45 or so degree weather. The steel strings got cold, my fingertips got cold and then slightly numb. Without knowing it, I was pressing harder and harder on the string, and as a result, got a bone bruise on my left index finger tip that bothers me to this day if it's cold where I'm playing. It's just not worth the possible injury to you and your bass. My real question is, though, what kind of idiot asks musicians to play outdoors when it's 16 below?

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Old 12-21-2012, 05:04 PM
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Cracks and stress issues to the wood aside, there is a high chance that you'll develop some finish checking or such due to the low temperature and different expansion / contraction rates between the wood and finish.

'Probably not the best for a fully carved bass, but I support you 100% for not acting like my little old grandma and being a sissy about playing outside in the cold. Speaking as someone who has played music outside multiple times in December at the Mt Everest basecamp and on the other end at the bottom of the Grand Canyon in August when it was 120F+ in the shade, keep up the good fight and rock that freezing gig like it was your last one!

Since it relates to the conversation at hand, have you seen my field testing section?

http://condino.com/field-testing/

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Old 12-21-2012, 05:10 PM
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It's 40 degrees outside my house right now, and even at that temperature I would have zero desire to perform out there for any real length of time.
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In case you fine ladies and gentlemen south of our border didn't catch it, that's -16 centigrade. about 4.5 degrees your temperature. still cold, but not as cold as you may have thought.

In regards to playing a carved bass out in the cold, Mr. Condino's the guy to listen to, I think. There's a likelihood of damage, both minor and major, and were I you, I'd find a spare ply bass lying around and use it if I could.

That said, I'm not you, and I wish you the best of luck on your gig!
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:08 PM
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You are crazy to play outside in 5 degree temperatures period.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:15 PM
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im in montreal, i can barely walk 10 minutes in sub zero temp without my hands freezing up..even if i had a weather proof instrument, im not sure i could play it...
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:23 PM
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I'd be using a ply bass, and I'd be wearing gloves. Worry more about the warming up than the cooling down, that's when the wood expands faster than the finish.

Those super stretchy one-size-fits-all jobbies are surprisingly transparent when you're playing outdoors in the cold!
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:25 PM
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Ummm......No.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:51 PM
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Naturally the real question is what kind of rosin to use at -16 C.
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