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09-21-2010, 02:42 AM
|  | Best Upright Guitarrón (UG) player in my house. | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Idyllwild, California | | | "Pizz" is pronounced . . .
(File this under the category of "Geeze, haven't you got anything better to think about?" Answer: "Not at 1:40 a.m., I guess.")
When you're writing about it on TB, pizz is pizz. But when you hear it said aloud . . . well, I'm not hearing the same pronunciation from everybody. So far I've heard:
"Pizz" (rhyming with "fizz")
"Pits"
"Peas" and
"Pete's"
I haven't heard "Pies" or "Pites" (rhyming with "kites") yet.
So, when you're tossing it out in conversation, how do you pronounce "pizz"? And does it depend on how your teacher pronounced it?
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09-21-2010, 02:47 AM
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09-21-2010, 04:06 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany | | | "pizzicato" is italian, so in english it should be something like "pits"
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09-21-2010, 04:13 AM
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09-21-2010, 04:28 AM
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09-21-2010, 04:37 AM
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09-21-2010, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield  And the next lesson will be "col legno"..... | Bevis: "Heh heh, you said legno."
I pronounce "pizz" like the first syllable of pizzicato, "pits". |
09-21-2010, 07:00 AM
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09-21-2010, 07:36 AM
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kol lehgno - - with the wood |
09-21-2010, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bassist14 "pizzicato" is italian, so in english it should be something like "pits" | Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Barsic I pronounce "pizz" like the first syllable of pizzicato, "pits". | Well, okay, "pits" if in English. But it is an Italian word, so shouldn't it be more like "Pete's"? Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Warburton Unbelieveable thread. | Yeah, ain't it?
This about sums up my ability to contribute anything around here. 
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09-21-2010, 08:13 AM
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09-21-2010, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Clark Well, okay, "pits" if in English. But it is an Italian word, so shouldn't it be more like "Pete's"? | the double "z" requires a short "i" before
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09-21-2010, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bassist14 the double "z" requires a short "i" before | Ah! I was expecting an English "eee" sound, more like an "i" in Spanish. So, in Italian, the double "z" gives it a short "i" as in "pits." Good to know, thanks!
Now, see, Paul, wasn't that worth it? 
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09-21-2010, 04:01 PM
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Whatta relief, Jack. I was gettin' afraid that every string player I've ever met in my life was pronouncing the damn word wrong. 
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09-21-2010, 06:00 PM
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09-21-2010, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Johnson Pizza Cuttah. | Uh-oh. Marcus, you've just reopened the quandary.
bassist14, what about the word "pizza"? It has an "i" before a double "z," but we don't say "pits-ah." We say "pete's-ah." If pizza is pronounced "pete's-ah," shouldn't pizz be pronounced "pete's"?
Now we're getting down to the serious s**t, here. 
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09-21-2010, 07:01 PM
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09-22-2010, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Clark Uh-oh. Marcus, you've just reopened the quandary.
bassist14, what about the word "pizza"? It has an "i" before a double "z," but we don't say "pits-ah." We say "pete's-ah." If pizza is pronounced "pete's-ah," shouldn't pizz be pronounced "pete's"?
Now we're getting down to the serious s**t, here. | I think we need a native Italian speaker - but surely the point is that the musical terms are not current vernacular - they are archaic and come from Mozart and Haydn's time when no doubt the language was more formal and precise?
In several centuries, vernacular Italian and particularly amongst those who emigrated to America - must have developed and changed in many ways?
Italian musical terms are used as "standard" throughout the world when it comes to serious orchestral and chamber music and they have just come into use in that way - you have to accept that this is nothing to do with the actual language they came from and parted company long ago... 
Edit : I just looked in the Oxford Dictionary of Music and it says the term was first used on a score in 1624!
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09-22-2010, 02:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: perth | | really it's halfway between pits and pete's but it's a sound we don't ever use in english. hang around some italian people and you'll hear it 
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09-22-2010, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Clark bassist14, what about the word "pizza"? It has an "i" before a double "z," but we don't say "pits-ah." We say "pete's-ah." If pizza is pronounced "pete's-ah," shouldn't pizz be pronounced "pete's"? | Answer : Quote:
Originally Posted by fractiouslowend . hang around some italian people and you'll hear it |
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