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Old 11-09-2007, 09:21 AM
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tuba or not tuba

I've got an ancient Tuba on loan, just to see if it is an interesting addition to my stringed basses. I don't know the first thing about these instuments, so far I managed to produce a Bb an F and a Eb note with limited succes and Google explained me what the valves are supposed to do. Are there anymore out there who combine playing tuba and bass? Any tips for an absolute beginner?
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:11 AM
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I'd seek out a pro brass player for a lesson or two at least. My college major was trumpet, but like most brass majors I played the whole family of instruments at various times. Tuba kicked my butt a little bit!
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:27 AM
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I've got an ancient Tuba on loan, just to see if it is an interesting addition to my stringed basses. I don't know the first thing about these instuments, so far I managed to produce a Bb an F and a Eb note with limited succes and Google explained me what the valves are supposed to do. Are there anymore out there who combine playing tuba and bass? Any tips for an absolute beginner?
I bought a BBb Sousaphone just for the hell of it - it is easy to play the lowest scale, but it get harder as you go higher. The real problem I see is that although I can get the notes, my tone is crap. Needs proper lessons. Also they are damned heavy, and I give up after a few songs for a rest.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:03 AM
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It's a cool thing to be able to play tuba, but be careful who you tell; you could end up spending a lot of time wearing a plastic straw boater and garters on your sleeves.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:15 AM
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You need to go to your local University or Orchestra and take lessons with the resident pro.
As is the case with any other instrument you need to get proper instruction in order to play the thing properly.

I can't stress that point strongly enough.

I have been playing Double Bass, Electric Bass, and Tuba for 40 years and it's been a blast, the only downside being if you need to bring all of them to the same gig!!!

Most Dixie work requires both instruments and there are several shows that require the double as well.

Good luck.
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I agree-get lessons.

I have looked into picking up tuba so that i have yet another double. However, i am putting it on the back burner as cost is a bit excessive for me at the moment. So maybe once i'm out of college.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:33 AM
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Ditto on the lessons! I've played tuba off and on for about 40 years, (off at the moment) as it was my major in school. If your serious about learning it, approach it as a newbie should on upright and get thyself to a good teacher and shed every day. It's just as hard to maintain chops as the beginning learning curve - those little face muscles and breathing apparati have to stay in good shape to have any decent endurance. But if you enjoy it, go for it!

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Old 11-12-2007, 07:00 AM
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Thanks to all of you, I get the "get a teacher" point and I'm looking round for one.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:42 AM
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Cheap Tuba/Lessons

Try Craigslist.

I found a decent Conn 10J on there for $300. It cost another $80 to get it working decent and then $100 for a soft case.

I'm bartering lessons with a pro tuba player in the area. I give him bass lessons in exchange for tuba lessons. For me its more of a refresher since I did play tuba in high school and college.

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I agree-get lessons.

I have looked into picking up tuba so that i have yet another double. However, i am putting it on the back burner as cost is a bit excessive for me at the moment. So maybe once i'm out of college.
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Ditto for the lessons. I am a euphonium player (otherwise known as a tenor tuba). It will only help your bass playing. Some suggestions:

Of course, get a teacher.

Find an Arban's method. There's one out for tuba now, but I think it's mostly for CC tuba, and from what I understand, you have a BBb. It's also like 50 USD. You can buy the trombone version and read it down an octave. The baritone fingerings noted in this edition are the same for BBb tuba, just an octave higher. And by the way, tuba reads "at pitch" rather than an octave higher than it sounds, like the bass does. The trombone method (the old one, edited by Charles Randall and Simone Mantia) is less than half the cost of the "new and improved" edited copies. The way I see it, you will never perform these on stage, so who the hell cares if you're playing the right notes or not?

Have the Arban's method (of which I can give you PLENTY of useful exercises and how to play them), and get a beginning method as well, such as "Best in Class" or "Standard of Excellence."

Until then, play long tones on your Bb note. It will improve your tone until you can get a book and learn to play other notes. Then when you learn those notes, play long tones on them. Long tones on lower notes helps the tone of the whole range of the horn.

Listen to the Dirty Dozen Brass Band and the Youngblood Brass Band, to get an idea on how you can use the tuba in modern situations.

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Old 11-12-2007, 08:43 AM
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Thanks Nick,

The Youngblood brassband is the very reason I want to try Tuba in the first place. I'm doing a piece by them on double bass in my bigband.

I did already order a beginner method on the net, but found it dificult to choose one. Following your advice I immediately found something called "my first arban for Tuba" in a quick search. Ordered it right away

Matthijs

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Old 11-12-2007, 08:50 AM
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Wow. Only 7 people said get lessons. It might be a TBDB record for such a short thread.

Are you looking to get to a pro level or do you just want to try it out? There are tons of methods out there (arban, alfred, boosey and hawkes) that'll get you started and let you know if the instrument is even interests you. I played trombone for 10 years. Played being the operative word.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:11 AM
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If pro level means wanting to make money: that's not my plan. If me and my tuba survive the honeymoon I'd want to be able to play it decently enough to replace my double bass once in a while. Should be fun to be able to walk away from the piano and drumkit and 'run off' with the horns. Even if all Ill be able to manage is a root 5 pattern: If it is possible to make that groove without having to do years of training, I will be a happy man.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:56 AM
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Just for fun, check out some of Arthur Blythe's albums that feature Bob Stewart on Tuba in lieu of a bassist. He did one years ago that also featured Abdul Wadud on cello and James Blood Ulmer on guitar. Mind-bending.

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Old 11-12-2007, 06:53 PM
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Just for fun, check out some of Arthur Blythe's albums that feature Bob Sterwart on Tuba in lieu of a bassist. He did one years ago that also featured Abdul Wadud on cello and James Blood Ulmer on guitar. Mind-bending.
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Bob Stewart is another tubist you're going to want to check out.

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