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Old 11-11-2008, 11:28 AM
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I get bouts of it every once in a while, usually about this time of the year.

I only got about 3 to 4 hours of sleep a night for about 6 months straight, last year and into this year. I went to the doctor, and he gave me some Lunesta (which is great BTW). If I stopped taking it, I stopped sleeping altogether, it seemed to make it worse, because I'd feel well rested one night and stay up the next day and night. I eventually gave up on trying to fight it, and just accepted the fact that I would only get a few hours of sleep each night.
During this time, I used the extra time to read books, clean house, build guitars, practice bass, write songs, fix computers, build my car-puter. It almost seemed like I led two lives, one while my kids were awake, and one while they were asleep... kinda weird...

But, I wouldn't curse insomnia on anyone, even if they did manage to do some positive things out of it... Go see a doctor.
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:39 PM
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I don't see what a pill is going to do for you more than a swift kick in the ass from an intense exercise session. Also, I agree with keeping that to a few hours before sleep if you have to do it in the afternoon. The only thing you should see a doctor on is to check and see if you're able to do physical exercise...
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:31 PM
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I don't see what a pill is going to do for you more than a swift kick in the ass from an intense exercise session. Also, I agree with keeping that to a few hours before sleep if you have to do it in the afternoon. The only thing you should see a doctor on is to check and see if you're able to do physical exercise...
I excercise almost every day, but maybe at the wrong times
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:16 PM
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There is some great information here.

+1 on the exercise. Hard exercise has done wonders for my sleeping. Perhaps if you change your intensity of exercise?

Apparently our dog jumps on & off our bed several times throughout the night. I wouldn't know since I've started running several times per week.

+1 on smoking, caffeine, spicy foods, and exercise before bed.

+2 on seeing a doctor soon.

Hope you get some rest!

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Old 11-12-2008, 12:56 AM
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I've never really been affected by it but my friend has had insomnia for a couple years... Lot's of **** was happening in his life and it just f***ed him up pretty bad. He is getting over it slowly though. I don't think he has seen a Doctor about it, he probably should.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:36 AM
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I have moderate insomnia on a regular basis, averaging 5-6 hours on a good night. +1 to what everyone else said, plus Melatonin and Soma helped me a lot (up from 2-3 hours a night, which was really killing me). Quitting smoking was a pain but it helped as well. Good luck man, I know how terrible insomnia can be.
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:01 PM
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Wow!! Thank you Dr. Stumbo, This will all help I am sure.
You're welcome. Doc Stumbo at your service. A long time soldier on the front line of the somatically challenged.

Here are a couple of links for further investigation:
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/insomnia/article_em.htm
http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/insomnia

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The only thing you should see a doctor on is to check and see if you're able to do physical exercise...
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There are many conditions that will cause insomnia. Better to get a complete blood work check-up to make sure there are no physical problems causing the insomnia.

As far as taking pills, insomnia can be so bad if it goes on for too long that you can't function and taking a pill to force sleep may be the only short term solution.

One of the problems with pills is that if you stop, you can get "rebound" insomnia. That is, you get it worse. Check with your Dr. and ask if you can take 3/4 pill for couple of days, then 1/2 pill for a couple of days , then 1/4 pill for a couple of days to wean yourself off of the medication. It's call titration or titrating. You can do it for longer if need be.

On the melatonin, my wife takes it right now. It takes awhile for it to kick in for her so she takes it about 9pm so she can sleep at 10-11pm. If she takes it too late 11pm or 12am, it can make her feel sluggish for a few hours in the morning. For me, I was so sensitive to it, that even if I took 1/4 pill is made me feel sluggish.

My point is to monitor the time you take it and how much to get the right dosage for yourself. It does work. Titrate yourself off of it when you decide to stop.

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Adjusting your sleeping attire to the season also may help reduce sleep disturbances. For example, as winter approaches (well...the little bit of coolness that we call winter in So. Cal.), I put socks on to keep my feet from getting cold....'cause if I don't, I'll wake up off and on during the night. If I use a heavier blanket, I get too warm overall.

Noting the change in temperature from when you go to sleep to the early morning, if you're not cranking the heater may also be disturbing your sleep. If it's getting a lot cooler early in the morning, you may not be dressed for it and getting too cold will disturb your sleep. Getting the temp to be constant to at least around 65 degrees and using a nice, warm blanket or comforter may help keep you in deep sleep longer.

If your heater is running through out the night, make sure there is a moisture source in your room. Dry sinuses and mouth may be enough to make you uncomfortable and disturb your sleep.

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Old 11-12-2008, 02:22 PM
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There are many conditions that will cause insomnia. Better to get a complete blood work check-up to make sure there are no physical problems causing the insomnia.
Hey more power to you if you can successfully use medication to cure your problem, but I really have to advocate exhausting all options before. I'm not suggesting he shouldn't see a doctor; going for a physical would certainly find any problems. That said, I suggested getting a physical to insure exercise could be performed. I don't see any causes (save brain trauma; perhaps too much rockin'? impossible!) that wouldn't be alleviated by intense exercise. I could be wrong...

Willy2911: I have to emphasize the intensity of the workouts. Also, perhaps giving a description of a typical night would help diagnose a particular cause...
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L tryptophan is also naturally promotes sleepiness.
Thanks for the great advice Stumbo, it will benefit us all.
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I don't see any causes (save brain trauma; .... that wouldn't be alleviated by intense exercise. I could be wrong...
Hyperthyroidism, bipolar (manic phase)....others.

Exercise can't solve everything. What about the people who can't exercise due to handicaps...what are they supposed to do?

The least amount of treatment to solve the problem would be my goal....where appropriate-medication, exercise, therapy,hey whatever works.
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:13 AM
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What about the people who can't exercise due to handicaps...what are they supposed to do?
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see a doctor...to check and see if you're able to do physical exercise...
Doesn't stop countless handicap people who are motivated enough

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The least amount of treatment to solve the problem would be my goal....where appropriate-medication, exercise, therapy,hey whatever works
Agreed, I only advocate exhausting all options before medications...

Willy: how we doin? Have you pushed through the bout?
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