Craigslist - Looking for "Screamer"

5andFretless · #1 05-24-2008, 07:23 AM

At least they are being honest

http://longisland.craigslist.org/tlg/661570726.html

Mr.Phil · #2 05-24-2008, 09:15 AM

"Singing is a plus but is not 100% necessary"

bassmodder · #3 05-24-2008, 09:19 AM

The metal bands I have heard don't sing. Hence I would think they would sound like "Just another crappy metal band" I wish them luck though.

I don't really care for that kind of music by the way... So my bias has been stated.

JonathanD · #4 05-24-2008, 10:42 AM

Its a genera guys. Just like if someone put an ad out saying "stand up bass is a plus but not 100% necessary". To a die hard rockabilly guy this might seem ignorant.

DudeistMonk · #5 05-24-2008, 11:48 AM

What measure of talent or dedication does being a professional screamer take? A bag of throat lozenges, a bottle of jack and a stage?

Personally when I go to see a band I want them to be up there doing something that sounds good. AAAHHHHHGGGAGHHHGGGGHHHHH!

I've listened to my fair share of metal and the drums are always fantastic and there is room for great bassists and guitards too but if your "vocalist" is going to scream nonsense with a microphone practically inside his mouth I'm going to leave.

Nick Kay · #6 05-24-2008, 03:05 PM

Screaming is a lot more physically demanding than singing. Screaming WELL is alot more technically demanding than singing well, because it uses completely different parts of the vocal chords than speaking. Please don't bash harsh vocals just because 80% of the people that do them are terrible vocalists. It is just as much an art form as any other instrument, and if they don't take their craft seriously, it shows.

TrevorOfDoom · #7 05-24-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Kay

Screaming is a lot more physically demanding than singing. Screaming WELL is alot more technically demanding than singing well, because it uses completely different parts of the vocal chords than speaking. Please don't bash harsh vocals just because 80% of the people that do them are terrible vocalists. It is just as much an art form as any other instrument, and if they don't take their craft seriously, it shows.

i'm going to back you up (kinda) on this.
i was a vocalist (screamer) for a metal band some time ago. i was told by many many people who knew what they were talking about that i was quite good. and no, i didn't need any throat lozenges because if you scream correctly, you don't hurt your throat, or at least you only hurt your throat as badly as a well trained singer might after a standard show.
it's a skill that is underappreciated, and there's not a lot of guys that can do it well.
after being a screamer, i've taken up singing and have found it to be just a bit easier, honestly.
long story short: there's a time and a place for everything, and i appreciate people who are good at what they do.

Elrend · #8 05-24-2008, 03:25 PM

Hardcore and progressive are utter opposites

TrevorOfDoom · #9 05-24-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Elrend

Hardcore and progressive are utter opposites

so should be jazz and metal, but look at Dillenger Escape Plan.

music knows no boundaries. it's a good thing.

Visirale · #10 05-24-2008, 03:34 PM

It's a genre that makes (quite a bit of) money... and as an aspiring music businessman, I can respect it for that.

Teens that are into this stuff have a considerable amount of disposable income, and a will to spend it on their interests like music... This isn't the 1800's and gold doesn't come in streams in California anymore... it's a little less apparent, and not as pretty... but it's money to be made.

Visirale · #11 05-24-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TrevorOfDoom

so should be jazz and metal, but look at Dillenger Escape Plan.

music knows no boundaries. it's a good thing.

I love DEP. Liam is a great bassist too...

TrevorOfDoom · #12 05-24-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Visirale

I love DEP. Liam is a great bassist too...

and BTBAM. amazing stuff.

heard the new Protest the Hero?

Mr.Phil · #13 05-24-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JonathanD

Its a genera guys. Just like if someone put an ad out saying "stand up bass is a plus but not 100% necessary". To a die hard rockabilly guy this might seem ignorant.

I kind of a agree with this, but it would be more like...
"ability to actually play bass is a plus but not 100% necessary, as long as you can kind of wank on it and make sounds"

improvpwnd · #14 05-24-2008, 03:49 PM

I don't get what the big deal is about wanting a screamer in a band. Metal band vocalists scream. Don't bash it just because you don't like it.. just don't listen to it. And about the singing is not necessary thing.. screaming is not considered singing. For those of you who thing a vocalist is not a vocalist unless they sing should really open your eyes--think hip-hop, metal... heck, even Johnny Cash.

Music is emotional. Screaming can express emotion(s). What's the problem, guys (besides your taste

).

improvpwnd · #15 05-24-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TrevorOfDoom

so should be jazz and metal, but look at Dillenger Escape Plan.

music knows no boundaries. it's a good thing.

Google Candiria. Great bassist/band.

Mr.Phil · #16 05-24-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by improvpwnd

I don't get what the big deal is about wanting a screamer in a band. Metal band vocalists scream. Don't bash it just because you don't like it.. just don't listen to it.

Music is emotional. Screaming can express emotion(s). What's the problem, guys (besides your taste

).

Interesting point... I don't care for it, but I do respect those who make money doing it, that is a talent. However, I have a hard time taking some of it seriously. I mean come on, honestly? Even if it is your thing, you have to admitt, that there are a lot of hacks out there (as with anything else).
On a side note, I guess you're right, it does express emotion. I guess I'm just not into feeling the emotion of an angst ridden teen.

neurotictim · #17 05-24-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Elrend

Hardcore and progressive are utter opposites

Tell that to Control Denied.

WarriorJoe7 · #18 05-24-2008, 04:04 PM

i thought this was going to be in the "men seeking women" section LOL

Matt Till · #19 05-24-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Phil

"Singing is a plus but is not 100% necessary"

You guys are going to have to get over it. The fact of the matter is, some genres call for screaming... if you don't like it... don't listen to it.

TrevorOfDoom · #20 05-24-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Phil

On a side note, I guess you're right, it does express emotion. I guess I'm just not into feeling the emotion of an angst ridden teen.

ouch.

one of my favourite vocalists is Josh Scogin of The Chariot, ex of Norma Jean. he's not an angsty, angry young man. he's a nice guy, with a huge heart.
when asked by a reporter why he screamed, he replied, "because the band is playing metal. if they didn't, i wouldn't scream."

his point is simply, some situations call for certain sounds and techniques.
case in point: would you use a 6 string MTD on a motown/old school R&B gig? or would you use a P with flats?
the right tool for the job, as they say.