CWB 20: Babes and Barbarians

[chuck3]

Originally Posted by DerTeufel

LOL..space where we're currently playing is TIGHT.

well, FOH is actually better when space is tight. Just go with one of the mains. Done it plenty.

But again - I love big bass rigs, don't get me wrong.

[basswave]

Originally Posted by Mulebagger

Honestly, the weight is the only thing keeping me from having 2 BagEnd 410 cabinets. I don't want a rig that weighs the same I do.

Are the BagEnd 4ohm cabinets?

[BassGen]

Originally Posted by JaamE

We have a big feast at our house and my Army friend will be coming.

Sounds like a great welcome home! Well that's what she said!

[Mulebagger]

Originally Posted by basswave

Are the BagEnd 4ohm cabinets?

They are 8 ohms each.

[basswave]

Originally Posted by Mulebagger

They are 8 ohms each.

Cool...
If you are ever interested in nice sounding 8 ohm 410s that are light (cabs coming in about 59-61 lbs) you should check out REVsound RS410T. Celestion loaded neos.

[Mulebagger]

Originally Posted by basswave

Are the BagEnd 4ohm cabinets?

Originally Posted by chuck3

I'm reading all the bass cab posts on here with interest, but I have to say I'm going in the opposite direction. I'm interested in my bands having a fat-ass front of the house PA system that can handle bass, such that I can use a small Genz Benz head and monitor back where I am. I totally understand the rationale of doing it your way, but as time goes on I think the FOH way of looking at it is better. Long topic, I know. The "Live Sound" forum is where I hang out on TB besides CWB. The Shoemakers are my secondary band and not that talented but the mains are serious 15s that can handle bass fine. Plus there's the option of subwoofers.

Or, to put it differently, someone other than me can carry all that heavy stuff.

Seriously, I try to look at it from the audience's point of view, and I think a fully mixed band at the FOH point of attack is enjoyed more than the mega rig approach.

Again, just my .02, and I love big rigs too.

C3, totally see your angle on it. A good friend of mine here uses a pair of the mackie hd systems ( 2x15 sub, and 2x 15 full range). He gets a great sound, tons of head room, great for the band.

I mainly use my modular setup to scale appropriately for my gigs because most venues we play don't have sound reinforcement. We have a pair of SP5s and powered monitors. I go through them to even out our sound but I'd have trouble hearing my bass on some venues w just the one cube. I have to carry gear anyway so it's a wash for me.

At gigs w big reinforcement, I'll bring only what I need.

My main thought behind making a 2x15 is to increase the internal volume of the cabinet for a lower frequency response, and to make it with lighter birch and internal bracing to lighten it up some.

What initially motivated me was reading a post where an Aguilar GS 212 outperformed a pair of 1x12s in depth and punch.

[Mulebagger]

Originally Posted by basswave

Cool...
If you are ever interested in nice sounding 8 ohm 410s that are light (cabs coming in about 59-61 lbs) you should check out REVsound RS410T. Celestion loaded neos.

Hey Basswave,
Got any links for them? I'd be interested to see their specs. Sounds nice.

[basswave]

Originally Posted by Mulebagger

Hey Basswave,
Got any links for them? I'd be interested to see their specs. Sounds nice.

The site is getting completely revamped...(I think right after the holidays)

http://www.revsound.net/cabs.htm

Here is a little video of the 210 (Little bassballs on there)


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=551598234865646

[JaamE]

Originally Posted by BassGen

Sounds like a great welcome home! Well that's what she said!

LOL, i'm beginning to think bass players have almost as much dirty minds as our drummers do.

Maybe it's from standing behind the hot singer-babes?

He already got his 'welcome home' i took him out dancing and flirting.... poor man hasnt even hugged a woman since i saw him during his mid-tour leave in July. i won the teasing game .

Redheads are Evil. :-)

[DerTeufel]

Originally Posted by basswave

The site is getting completely revamped...(I think right after the holidays)

http://www.revsound.net/cabs.htm

Here is a little video of the 210 (Little bassballs on there)


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=551598234865646

Iiiinteresting. How much, pray tell, are their cabs?

[chuck3]

Originally Posted by Mulebagger

My main thought behind making a 2x15 is to increase the internal volume of the cabinet for a lower frequency response, and to make it with lighter birch and internal bracing to lighten it up some.

sounds cool - how many watts into how many ohms would you be running?

[basswave]

Originally Posted by DerTeufel

Iiiinteresting. How much, pray tell, are their cabs?

Thats the great thing...
They are not the expensive $900 for the 410 and $500 for the 210.
Baltic Birch framed.

Dave Luke the owner has been a consultant with Celestion for over 20 years. These are made right in the White Mountains of NH.

[basswave]

Originally Posted by JaamE

LOL, i'm beginning to think bass players have almost as much dirty minds as our drummers do.

.

Redheads are Evil. :-)

Yes to both cases...

[bigsnaketex]

Lightweight 410's rule. My Bassman 410neo's come in at 51 lbs and are almost a joy to pick up and move.

[Tat2dHeart]

Originally Posted by JaamE

LOL, i'm beginning to think bass players have almost as much dirty minds as our drummers do.


Redheads are Evil. :-)

Yes, we do.

I prefer to call it "Badness Enhanced." Evil sounds so negative and I'm a pretty positive person overall.

[Vandy]

Originally Posted by Tat2dHeart

I prefer to call it "Badness Enhanced."

As long as you gals get a chance to put into practice what your "badness enhanced" minds come up with . . .
In a positive way, of course . . .

Keep going over your fingering . . .

[Thor]

Originally Posted by JimB52

Thunder Dude, you have the kernel of a hit song there. Can I steal it iffen you ain't gonna?

Sure you can steal it. Every country songwriting attempt I make soon becomes Zappaesque.
Just watch...


I'm Cold,
I'm Tired
My brain is totally meth wired.

I'm old,
I got fired
I'm so messed up I'll never get rehired

The days are getting $****y, (woo woo *****y *****y )
but I'm ok for now

I'm stoned
As heck,
They cut off my welfare check.

Now I'm out
Can't get stoned
Can't pout, just line up for methadone

The days are getting crappy (woo woo crappy crappy)
but I'm ok for now.


Dang, I just fell off the barstool. I think my head is bleeding.

Originally Posted by DerTeufel

I hear ya. Model the boxes (and drivers) using cabinet design software to get ya in the ballpark.

I have to admit that the cheapie Seismic 210 cab seems to handle the low B fine..not as loudly as I would like, but it doesn't sound flabby or distorted. My biggest beef with em is that they are made out of MDF. I'm currently looking for two decent quality 210s that can handle a low B.

I heard the Rev cabs that Basswave was SPAMMING our thread with, and they were pretty good. It's not SPAM when I say it though.

Originally Posted by JaamE

I be somewhat of a cross between Native American Spirituality and Pagan... yes.

Pagan Club of CWB. Sharpen your halberd and pass the mead. We're gonna need more DT hats.

Originally Posted by Mulebagger

Thor, did you play the Coax model or the regular 15?
One sounds great, but a pair is pretty stout. For a 4 string rig I'd never look any further. They don't put quite the low I'd like for my B strings, but they aren't farty in the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaloSpG1gwc&list=UL

Playing my stack here with the Aguilar DB750. The sound you hear is a mix of the board and my Zoom video camera. I went to the board from my DI on the head. I rarely use effects so it's just bass>head>board/BagEnds.

They are super nice, but if I could have them in one box that had a bit more bass, That would most likely be my rig 90% of the time.

I kind of cruised into a place where it was on stage, the guy had a little Mark hed and a Baggie 15, it was dark so I didn't get the full scoop, plugged the Ibby in and went with it, it handled the P sound well on the 4. I had to back out the low slightly to smooth it out.

In the AMPS FAQ there is a whole section of DIY build links. Take a few minutes and zip through those before you build.

Also, playing with the software called WinISD (shareware), one of the first highlighted links, will tell you a lot about the effects of changing box sizes, assuming you can get the T/S parameters of the drivers or something similar.

[JaamE]

Originally Posted by Tat2dHeart

Yes, we do.

I prefer to call it "Badness Enhanced." Evil sounds so negative and I'm a pretty positive person overall.

Mmm, well i say "Evil" with a slightly malicious, flirty smile on my face.

And Vandy.... you know i don't

[etoncrow]

Originally Posted by JaamE

Mmm, well i say "Evil" with a slightly malicious, flirty smile on my face.

Like "wicked good"?

[JaamE]

Originally Posted by etoncrow

Like "wicked good"?

Exactly