CWB 21: Finally legal!

[tomydacat]

HERE HERE TAT I agree

[Tat2dHeart]

Thor - glad to see you back darlin'. Envelope headed your way.

I'm a touch out of sorts still. My dad's back through the hospital earlier this week and now back to the nursing home. It's looking more and more like the nursing home is going to be a permanent residence. He's not gonna like that much.

Add on a couple of big projects at work (not that I'm complaining since they're sending me to Europe), but it's a bit busy.

I miss y'all.

[JimB52]

Good to see you out and about, Ms. Heart.


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[tomydacat]

TAT sorry about DAD thoughts and prayers your way.. hows the new bass coming?

[JaamE]

Originally Posted by Tat2dHeart

I go out alone all the time. It's a great way to make new friends. Nothing "loser" about it - it gives you a chance to focus on yourself and the music (or whatever else you chose to do).

Yeah i guess. I dont make friends though... but that could be partly because i'm not at the bar doing shots and stuff. I go, have my 2 beers, dance, have one more as i dance (sometimes alone) and then i leave when the bass players not cute any more and the music is suddenly too loud.

[etoncrow]

Tat, sent you an email with local accommodation contact info. Look forward to seeing you.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by T_Bone_TL

I may be a newbie to be bass, but I've been recording stuff I absolutely, positively have to get down on the first take (at least, any second takes should be due to musicians, not recording screwups) for better than 13 years.

Step one, pick a decent sounding room, if at all possible. This allows not screwing with all the studio techniques that are mostly about overcoming the shortfalls of a studio room, which is usually too small. Step two, shut up the peanut gallery. Step three, run some decent electrets (there's a budget here, feel free to go fancier if you have it) into a stereo recorder. Put on headphones and get the mix right - no remixing allowed or encouraged. This often involves physical placement of musicians WRT mics in my application. Step 3, let it run - easier now that I'm using an Edirol R-09HR (with slightly better exterior mics I got for the MDs) where no session can outlast the card - started with minidisc, then HiMD when that came out, then the Eiderol.

No computer at the session (darn things are too noisy anyway, not to mention the ability to get fussy.) Clip out the good bits on the computer afterwards, burn it to disc.

The old-school approach with new toys, and the new toys fit in a shirt pocket, which I don't mind a bit. Mind you, things move so fast that I think the R-09HR is obsolete and off the market by now. Still works just fine. And the setup could not be simpler - at the low end, a fresh set of batteries and the recorder is good to go with its internal mics, at my usual level of complexity I bring the external power supply and my external mics and my headphones - not too much that can screw up recording other than a full-scale equipment malfunction.

Your obligatory CWB content - at least the top two are CWBs

I'll pass your comments on. The guitar player has the laptop and his buddy was serving as sound guy.

My old guitarist has a hand held unit (FM, you can define 'hand held unit' for us...) with 2 crossed mikes that loads to a sd card. That was used for my sound cloud posts and worked great, turned it on and let it run. I'm going to borrow that and let it run concurrently with any of his gear. Thanks, sorry for the hijack...

[Mulebagger]

Crow,
Still recovering from a busy week. I'll get on your clips as soon as I get a moment this week.

Hope you all are well.

D

[Tat2dHeart]

Originally Posted by JimB52

Good to see you out and about, Ms. Heart.


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And you, Mr. B. How ya doing?

Originally Posted by tomydacat

TAT sorry about DAD thoughts and prayers your way.. hows the new bass coming?

Thanks. Neck went to finishing on Friday - waiting to hear how that went and see the pictures.

Originally Posted by JaamE

Yeah i guess. I dont make friends though... but that could be partly because i'm not at the bar doing shots and stuff. I go, have my 2 beers, dance, have one more as i dance (sometimes alone) and then i leave when the bass players not cute any more and the music is suddenly too loud.

Drag a stranger to the dance floor with ya! I do that sometimes. Or buy the cute dude across the bar a drink. Done that, too.

Originally Posted by etoncrow

Tat, sent you an email with local accommodation contact info. Look forward to seeing you.

Got it, G. Running around like a chicken with my head cut off this week. Things are hectic here right now. I'll get you the plan before I leave the country, though. Can't wait to see ya!!

[JaamE]

Originally Posted by Tat2dHeart

Drag a stranger to the dance floor with ya! I do that sometimes. Or buy the cute dude across the bar a drink. Done that, too.

Once is a while the place is full enough that i find guys hanging around the edge of the dance floor looking eager and i drag them out. Usually if i have extra to spend on drinks it's to buy a shot for my fav bass player and set it at his feet.

Sometimes i think about finding another place to go, but the one nightclub downtown is all 20somethings and i don't know the music. The local bands i like also play casinos, but most of them are further than i want to drive in the dark. This is where having IRL friends would be a good thing.

[chuck3]

Originally Posted by JaamE

Once is a while the place is full enough that i find guys hanging around the edge of the dance floor looking eager and i drag them out.

I've been that guy, just nowhere near your zip code unfortunately.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by chuck3

I've been that guy, just nowhere near your zip code unfortunately.

Same here. hard not to move when the low end's got the groove.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=812HHetzbe4

[Thor]

Originally Posted by drummer5359

It should be no secret that I've have enough of 2012, I'm ready for a new year.

This coming year I'm looking to:

- Enjoy myself and my time with Jackie, my friends and family more as if nothing else I've learned the importance of this,

- Take better care of this beat up old body,

- Continue my bass studies,

- Get back to playing drums in a working band,

- Start playing in a band as a bassist,

- Continue to build of the successes that I've had with Feral and GRR,

- Record a second GRR album,

- Maybe go back to the working world.


How about you folks

Basically just try to get my, uhh, stuff together this year. Bigger list later.

Originally Posted by etoncrow

Have three more songs to learn this week for my acoustic/electric duo/trio project:

"Brass Buttons" - Lemonhead rendition (nice bass part)
"Fast Cars" - Tracy Chapman (adding a nice harmony line to the chorus)
"Wild Horses" - Stones

Learned a song with an interesting bass part for this group a while back called "Stay (I missed you)" by Lisa Loeb. The bass part repeats sections but the song never truly repeats itself. Here it is for your listening pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka9mCmx9Jhs

Wild horses is pretty easy. Good tune. Lisa went to my alma mater. Someone I have a random connection to made it big. Good for her. She personifies sexy geek.

Originally Posted by drummer5359

Happy New Year Folks!

I'm just starting to feel human at eight PM. My body feels like I spent New Years Eve partying with the ladies of CWB. I wouldn't quite call it alcohol poisoning, but I um... took the edge off last night.

Nowadays it takes me three days to recover from those episodes, so I don't do them anymore. The check liver light doesn't go off.

Originally Posted by chuck3

brings to mind an old joke involving the line "I'm Thor."

(not our Thor, just the Thor in the joke.)

I know the joke. I still lol'ed tho.

Originally Posted by drummer5359

Paul (from GRR) wrote a song for the next album which is about boxing.

The arrangement that we've worked out live involves cajon, pandiero and bass drum. The feel that I came up with for the bass drum Paul describes as a "war drum". I want to add a snare drum for ihe intro on the studio version doing a "military march" way back in the mix.

That was a deal breaker on drummer audition 10 days ago. I asked for a march. Guess the guy never played in HS band. I did, bass drum no less... lol. One parade anyway.

[SpecialBlender]

Originally Posted by Thor

That was a deal breaker on drummer audition 10 days ago. I asked for a march. Guess the guy never played in HS band. I did, bass drum no less... lol. One parade anyway.

Thor, I met my wife when I was a drill officer for a cadet marching band. She played the bass drum in it. I have fond memories of those days. We won several provincial championships.

Now I'm the one that salutes her, immediately does what she says and always remember to say "Yes Ma'am"

[Thor]

Originally Posted by SpecialBlender

Thor, I met my wife when I was a drill officer for a cadet marching band. She played the bass drum in it. I have fond memories of those days. We won several provincial championships.

Now I'm the one that salutes her, immediately does what she says and always remember to say "Yes Ma'am"

Apparently you are better domesticated than I am. I am subject to the occasional pesky complaints about 'when the heck are you going to grow up?' My usual answer is, 'Why?'

This started around 20 years ago when I turned 40. I said from now on, I am counting backwards. I got this reaction I am acting age appropriately right about now.

I promise never to get old. Or was it, 'Hope I die before i get old!'

Maybe I haven't been doing enough "standing up and saluting" and saying 'Yes Ma'am...'

[Thor]

Lot of stuff I missed here. Some I can't let pass, for better or for worse.

Originally Posted by JimB52

Told you before but I'll say it again - I love this picture and I think you need to buy that bass.
8)

Looks like a trip to LakkieWorld. That's an instant budget breaker.

Originally Posted by pointbass

I'm saddened to share that my friend and Sunday Jazz jam drummer, Leo Gayten, passed away yesterday. I'd appreciate it if you could send good vibes to his family, and in particular his young daughter, Lisette. Leo was a beautiful, peace-filled cat and a smoking drummer ... he'll be sorely missed ....

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I am reaching that age too, Ed. Where the musicians you love reach the finish line. It's at least better if they make the whole race to the end.

Originally Posted by DerTeufel

PA, thank you. I essentially kicked the marital hornet's nest on New Year's Day (she's not innocent, either). Trying to take it day by day right now.

In 1990 a good friend told me 'It's cheaper to keep them'. What he really meant was maybe I was getting lazy and not working hard enough and taking stuff for granted. It's a lot easier to get divorced and walk away than to do the hard work. You have to decide for yourself if it's worth it. You will get support either way, for sure.

Originally Posted by DerTeufel

I hope not..I don't like it in here and the Min-pin keeps farting!!

Reminds me of when my wife's Scottie stole and ate a whole stick of pepperoni back in '82. At 4 AM he let off a dogfartbomb under the marital bed that stripped the paint off the headboard, the walls and forced a multiple window opening in 10 degree weather. I was initially accused of this transgression but since the pepperoni was missing, the grand jury failed to indict.

Originally Posted by JaamE

Pretty much any genuine apology will work with me since mine rarely will say he's sorry or come to comfort me when i do that "girl thing" and run off in tears.

Running off in tears isn't really playing fair. But do the ladies ever? I always get dealt 3's and 5's, no aces. I'm used to it though...

Originally Posted by drummer5359

First of all...



I had it xrayed at the hospital. It might be a fracture, they were not sure. Or it sould be a rotator cuff injury. I have to make an appointment with an orthopedic surgeon in the AM. Util then I'm in a sling with a presciption for good painkillers.

Secondly...

I was given the Musicman the night before we left for Richmond. I just delivered the Gretsch Catalina Birch kit tonight before I went to the hospital. The Musicman is now mine free and clear.

Here is the kit set up at his house.

Ouch. But the gear is awesome. Pittsburgh seems a dangerous place to walk around. Maybe you need one of them motorized carts like they got in the supermarket. You know, an electric walker.

Originally Posted by PassivAggressiv

Maybe next time we'll manage to make it out closer to you.

I'm usually the one having to apologize. Thankfully for me, the hubz can't resist me when I'm on my knees, either.

NO COMMENT...

Originally Posted by drummer5359

Maybe by coincidence, my love and I just had the worst disagreement that we've ever had in the four and a half years that we've been together.

It must be something in the air.

Pain killers and air don't mix. (What's Canada' biggest export to the US? Refrigerated air. tssboom. )

Originally Posted by pointbass

Man, you all need to shape up!! Just follow my example .... after almost 32 years together I've come to realize that I'm wrong when my wife tells me I'm wrong. No arguments, no fighting, just me saying "You're right, I'm sorry". It's so much easier to deal with and, most likely, I probably am wrong the huge majority of the time. I married waayyyy above my pay grade, so I consider myself lucky she's still here after all of these years

I got 32 years in. Merely abasing yourself doesn't work in Scandinavian families. They expect you to impale yourself or immolate.

Originally Posted by BayStateBass

My wife called me a couple hours ago.

Her cousin committed suicide. Body was identified this morning.

He was 21 years old.

So 2013 is not starting off well.

I know that there is more than 1 person here that has gone through this. I lost my friend, musical guru and college roommate in '84. The pain never quite goes away, but you learn to live with it. I have a picture of us both on my desk at work and at home. I have forgiven now, but not forgotten.

Originally Posted by etoncrow

Damn man, what the hell is going on? Focus on the positive and what you cannot handle leave to a power greater than yourself...call that power whatever you want.

Woman once asked me, "Are you saved?"
I replied, "From what?"
She answered, "From the Devil!"
I said, "I do not believe in the Devil. I know the Devil exists but if I believe in him than I give him energy. The Devil is more than I can cope with so I just do not think about him at all. God made the Devil, let God deal with him. If I just focus on God then the Devil is behind me and he is God's problem; not mine."

Please excuse my political incorrectness in talking religion; I am just sharing a story to make a point. Two of my best friends have committed suicide. One in the 70's with a shotgun and the other purposefully OD'ed in the 90's. Let all of us focus on the positive and play the cards we are dealt; karma is the dealer and we are only working through our own mistakes. Don't do something that will make the game longer and harder later. You people mean a lot to me and I do not want you hurting....

Sometimes people can't find the way. They get boxed in and we can't help them. The best you can do is forgive, as the guilt and anger will only destroy you. Like you say, call it what you want, but sometimes you have to take some time to reflect on the things that are important in life.

BSB, I wish you peace of heart.

Originally Posted by FurryMonkey

And, just because...

You guys are so cute I'd like to ... maybe send a PM. Lol. Yeah.

Originally Posted by pointbass

Gee, this thread is carrying some heavy weight lately .... Hope the sunshine comes back soon! I don't check in here all that often, and mostly for my less-than-discrete stalking of the lovely Ms PA, but the CWB's et al need some morale boosting .... I guess it's what my wife calls the "Jan-Feb's"; cold, dark, post-holiday blues. So, check out this guy, he's got a great head-banging groove - gave me a good smile this morning

http://thefw.com/golden-retriever-loves-guitar/

I think the dog was getting rewarded with the beer. I'd bark for better beer if I was him. Betcha he'd really rock with a Newcastle or Guinness.

Originally Posted by PassivAggressiv

Poor guys never even stood a chance with the three of us.

Yup. No $****. They had NO IDEA of the confluence of events.

[tomydacat]

Tat cant wait to see the bass Either WOOO send pics when ya can

[drummer5359]

Simply said... Thor, I love your posts. (Well worth waiting for.)

[Thor]

Originally Posted by DerTeufel

Indeed. The wife and I went to a local comedy club on Friday night - the act was a hypnotist. Tomorrow night he is doing a "naughty" show..we're going to it!

I read the report. Sounded like a good time.

Originally Posted by JaamE

Today it's been TEN YEARS since the Dr first told me i had cancer!!!
And I'm still here! So neener, neener, cancer can just * off! :-)

Wish i could afford to go buy myself a new bass or something but since my Dean was purchased 5yr even though i didn't even play bass i'll have to amuse myself by playing it tonight.

My congrats on this, that's big.

Originally Posted by drummer5359

Hmm... my fantasies don't take place in FM's closet...

I can appreciate your sentiment in that regard.

Originally Posted by drummer5359

Suddenly my trowsers don't fit.

That's odd.

Mick Jagger said something to that effect on Get Your Ya Ya's Out.

Originally Posted by etoncrow

ROTFLMAO...

The Trumpketeers: Masters of the double entendre...and more often than not the high point of my day

Only they could make a "sex object" of a 63 year old hill-billy, redneck biker...

They must have seen the 'Mountain Man' pic of you when you were younger.

Originally Posted by Tat2dHeart

So.....what do you all think?

Two thumbs up!

Originally Posted by drummer5359

That is freaking awsome!

I can't wait to try it out at "Boot Camp"!





On other news...

I just got home from the orthopedic surgeon. I seperated my shoulder. I have a prescription for physical therapy.

This is good news.

Originally Posted by Mulebagger

Well to add to Tat's Good Wood news, my band just posted some players on line with the songs. I'll still send out discs when I receive them, but it's all there to hear on

http://m.reverbnation.com/artist/ariesrising

If you all recall this was recorded in our drummers garage not 24 hrs after closing my poor left hand in my van's slider door. Not making early excuses just saying it was a memorable day of recording. We got all the tracks down w the first take w the exception of the last one because I was having trouble w my hand.

Guitars were scratched and re done later.

Signal chain:
MB >Fodera>Aguilar DB750>BagEnd 15's. Line out of the Aggie and mic on the coax BE.

Hope you guys like it. It was fun as hell to play. I wrote songs 2,3,5&6

Derrick

I got them. Haven't hit them yet but I will when I get a quiet moment. Thanks again for sending those, MB.

Originally Posted by drummer5359

For some reason I can't get Reverb Nation to load.

I hate that site. After you sign up, they spam you endlessly.

Originally Posted by Mulebagger

PA, thanks for the kind words. I was thinking of all you guys when we recorded and didn't want to let crazy fingers get in the way !

Crow, I remember listening to the Dixie Dregs a few times. Really enjoyed their playing. Since I'm a self taught ear player, I do my best to listen and be in the moment with my bandmates. For me, the dialogue between the players tells the story more than the parts of the song could. Thanks for taking a listen to the tunes.

I have the DD's live in LA. Awesome album.

Originally Posted by BassGen

A nice bass player story.

snip...snip

You're a good man Tommi and I appreciate your integrity even though it was only a couple of bucks in the big picture. The world needs people like that.

Yup. Good story

Originally Posted by etoncrow

I talked to Steve Morse several times and it is my understanding (but I cannot verify this) that he wrote all the parts to all the songs. Most of the original members were students at the University of Miami School of Music. I heard them live four times shortly after the "What If" album and they played each note of each song exactly as if they were reading parts. When you heard them they sounded exactly like the album.

While the music I was playing professionally was not anywhere as close to the complexity of "the Dregs" the band I was with choreographed the entire show. Everything from jokes, to intros was rehearsed. Our songs were originals so by the time we wrote, arranged, rehearsed and promoted our material we had played these songs thousands of times. I kept myself from getting complacent by trying to play each note, each tone, each nuance of sound exactly the same way with each performance. That disciple paid dividends in the studio.

This does not mean we did not "jam" or were limited in creativity; it is just that our shows were often done under time constraints (like TV or showcases). Usually when we had extended moments in concert we had audio "keys" which let everyone in the band know when to hit the "re-entries". I hope I am making sense in this explanation.

My guys call the audio keys the 'signposts' or 'The Nod'. Same idea.

Originally Posted by drummer5359

I missed mentioning an important milestone yseterday. It marked two years since I stumbled upon Talkbass.

I stumbled in here once by accident. Look where that got me.

(I was able to cover up all the 'earwax' sins before some grumpy mod having a bad day spotted them... Lol.)

[JaamE]

My guys call the audio keys the 'signposts' or 'The Nod'. Same idea.

With us it's either the drummer saying 'hup' or if we need to know the chord he'll nudge us with that, or with 'one more time' as he steers us back into another chorus. I like it, helps me a lot and keeps us all together.