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11-03-2006, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cowsgomoo everyone sucks when they start... you have to start somewhere, and being crap is common to us all...
ever wondered what Jaco sounded like the first time he ever picked up a bass?? i'll take a stab at 'completely hopeless'
and i'll also bet that every rock star who ever existed also A. was once crap, B. dreamt of being hugely successful
so don't be such a sourpuss! | of course its true that we all suck when we first started, like the rancid drummer who started late and only been drumming for 6months before going on a big tour. but incase u havent read my first post.this guy is in his mid20s and just started to sing, and has very bad voice. and he doesnt wanna learn any instrument and dont take lessons. He assume that if he keeps singing he'll improve eventually. But i think hes going to screw up his voice before he makes any improvement because hes like trying to a bad imitation at axl's belting.AND he is going to do 80's rock originals(yea, you heard it old school rock) and think that it'll be big and spread worldwide...
on the other hand if theres this poser guy who wears tattoos and dye his hair red and get the image down. practise hard and has an idea of hows hes going to improve, and has a plan on how hes band is going to progress etc. i might just give him props cause he actually has a plan. | 
11-03-2006, 10:13 AM
| | | I could have been a dreeeeeamer,
I could have been a shooting star...
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Sorry, I think that everytime I see this thread and finally just had to say it.  | 
11-03-2006, 03:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kansas City | | | I used to be a dreamer with a plan, and then I hooked up with other dreamers with plans and started down the road. Then I started succeeding but realized that I just didn't want it badly enough to go through what it would have taken.
A lot of people don't realize that you will probably put less effort into getting a PhD than you will at becoming a rock star. But at least with enough effort, the PhD is a sure thing.
The thing that cracks me up about the dreamers is that most of them are into music for the same reason people were into computers back in the late '90s: they want easy money. They don't want to bus tables and drive schoolbusses and haul trash for ten years while waiting for being rich, and very few of them are really interested in sleeping on floors in different cities five nights a week, or learning proper business management, or doing any of the other things that it takes to launch the successful business that a professional rock band is. | 
11-04-2006, 10:22 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: YORKSHIRE | | Quote: |
If I end up being a poor and humble musician that no ones heard of, but who can fully express any musical idea I might have with unparalleled virtuosity, than F$#k all the rest of it!!!! You can have your TRL and your red carpet fame!!!
| Truer words were never spoken. This is exactly how I feel about making music.
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11-05-2006, 12:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | | | I want to make some form of living in music. I'm 20 and I've sofar had my hands in a few things... I'm a bass player (obviously). It's my first love as far as instruments go..
I'd like to be able to get work as a bass player... though I play drums and guitar (both adequately). I've taught.. I've engineered/mixed/done countless sessions, I've managed/booked, etc... I've even done the roadie thing. I'd be happy doing any of these for a living. My goal is to teach music/bass, but I'd be perfectly content doing any of these.
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11-08-2006, 03:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lacey Township Toms River NJ | | | I don't know if my dreams are out of sightt I hope to make a living enough to live in a "decent" sized house (a.k.a 1 story ranch) and possibly support a family and have enough money to go on vacations and out to eat buy stuff.etc
Yet I hop to do this with music, I would highly like to be a session musician in and around NYC. Yet I don't know if the market is big enough to be able to do this with just being a session artist now a days with all the digital stuff and how the markets changed. I dont need to be rich or famous just average. I am not sure if I can make this type of living by beincg a session musician so I'll ask some of you that. If not I'd like to teach History or something. I would really like to support myself nicely by being a session musician. I just don't know if I could make enough money to support myself with that amount of money ,that good amound of money with just being a session artist. | 
11-10-2006, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by badgrandad I have a problem with the message that seemes to be given to children that they can be anything they want to be.. | ???
yeah, i think more people are like "yeah if i wanted to become a great musician then i should have started to play when i was 4years... now i'm to old"
i dont think i have many friends at all who think they can be anything they want, and i think that's the reason why they cant be either............................... | 
11-10-2006, 02:03 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kraków, Polska | | | You're in Sweden, though. The American culture and educational system are much more interested in promoting self-esteem, confidence and unrealistic dreams than Europe.
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11-10-2006, 09:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canterbury, United Kingdom. | | | The Americans on the forum might be familiar with a British man whose name is Simon Cowell. He was one of the judges for a talent show which name escapes me.
That show was a prime example of people blinded by their own dreams of success, so blinded if fact that they do not realise how bad they are.
As was said, if you're in it for the fame, you're doing it for the wrong reason. | 
11-10-2006, 02:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Boston, Taxachusetts | | | Let me tell you guys a story.
I have a brother-in-law who lives in New Jersey. When he was a teenager in the early 70s he played guitar in a band and played many "battle of the bands" events, winning quite a few of them. His band regularly trounced that of another guitarist who everybody thought was a no talent poser.
That guitarists's name: Richie Sambora.
Determination and a dream do matter more than talent sometimes. | 
11-10-2006, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by brianrost Let me tell you guys a story.
I have a brother-in-law who lives in New Jersey. When he was a teenager in the early 70s he played guitar in a band and played many "battle of the bands" events, winning quite a few of them. His band regularly trounced that of another guitarist who everybody thought was a no talent poser.
That guitarists's name: Richie Sambora.
Determination and a dream do matter more than talent sometimes. | i find that that hard to believe, i mean cmon he looks cool, has a great voice(even better than bon jovi imo) and is a tasteful player. i dont know, maybe determination pays. but he that guy definitely has talent, maybe ur brother in law was bad at spottin talent | 
11-10-2006, 02:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Atkinson, WI | | | Or maybe it's a case of "practice makes perfect."
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11-10-2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by invader3k Or maybe it's a case of "practice makes perfect." | i dont know man, he you should go to youtube and see some of his singing, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
i also heard that he plays a ton of other instruments | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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