Doom(ed) Set

Snakeman1066 · #1 07-21-2009, 12:03 AM

Ok so we played a festival at a local bar the other night....this show was doomed from the start i fear....

story goes like this....promoter saw us play at another gig wanted us to open his festival...we say ok after looking at the line up (which at the time was quite diverse).....forward two weeks later...i get an e-mail from the lead singer of the headlining band telling me the promoter pulled out, but he was taking over the show and wanted to know if we would still play....i say sure.....another week goes by 17 bands has gone down to 7.....ok so we get a longer set and more money (less to divide up win win) so the day of the show comes (keep in mind we have plastered flyers everywhere in our area as the venue is 2 hours away) we get there a little early but not too early and no sound guy and no P.A. about a half hour before we are supposed to go onstage the lead singer of the headlining band shows up with a brand new P.A. he bought that day and tells us the sound guy bailed on them the night before in favor of a D.J. Gig....oh and the divierse line up is now all hardcore thrash metal bands (and we play stoner!) doomed i say....

so we set up mic everything and do a quick sound check and away we go.....during our second song, the monitors start acting really weird, by our fith song we are disgusted because what we are hearing on stage is complete crap so after 40 minutes we quit....

during tear down we discover that the drummer from the other band (guy that set up the P.A.) had our guitards amp and one of the power amps plugged into the same outlet strip and it was starving both the power amp and the guitards amp hence the weird sound. The strip was melted on the bottom side....

and naturally every band after us sounded great!

wasn't all bad though as we discovered what the audience heard was not what we heard....got invited to host our own show at the venue

i know no pic didn't happen right

it was mostly a sausage fest, but check out the lead singer of one of the other bands that played after us

www.myspace.com/splattafish

tycobb73 · #2 07-21-2009, 07:42 AM

So you had sound problems and ran off stage like whiny little girls?

modulusman · #3 07-21-2009, 07:50 AM

If those are the PA cabs in your pictures then whoever was in charge of sound was an idiot. The PA should be up about ear level not aimed where it will hit people right in the @ss.

Snakeman1066 · #4 07-21-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tycobb73

So you had sound problems and ran off stage like whiny little girls?

trust me had you heard what we did coming out of the monitors you would have split too not to mention it's really hard to play with two other guys when you can't hear them and they can't hear you....

besides we were supposed to only play an hour anyway....

did you miss the part where we disovered they were starving the guitards amp? it probably a goof thing we ran when we did or his amp may have been damaged.....the strip it was plugged into was melted

Snakeman1066 · #5 07-21-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by modulusman

If those are the PA cabs in your pictures then whoever was in charge of sound was an idiot. The PA should be up about ear level not aimed where it will hit people right in the @ss.

if you look to the right of my bass amp there were speakers in front of us and behind us!

i think i already established the guy running sound didn't know what he was doing....hence the rant

NKBassman · #6 07-21-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakeman1066

it was mostly a sausage fest, but check out the lead singer of one of the other bands that played after us

www.myspace.com/splattafish

Babe.

Jonyak · #7 07-21-2009, 09:37 AM

you guys don't look like a stoner band.. haha.

but ya, it always sucks when the sound on stage sucks.

lindseyp · #8 07-21-2009, 09:45 AM

Whatever, nice bass, dude. Your rig doesn't look bad, either.

Snakeman1066 · #9 07-21-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonyak

you guys don't look like a stoner band.. haha.

but ya, it always sucks when the sound on stage sucks.

what is a Stoner band supposed to look like?

we get compared to Reverend Bizarre, Acid King and Sabbath a lot

Snakeman1066 · #10 07-21-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lindseyp

Whatever, nice bass, dude. Your rig doesn't look bad, either.

not sure what the whatever is about but thanks for the compliments...I love that bass...best sounding bass and best feeling bass i have ever owned

the cabs i built myself and the amps were bought used, it's just stuff i pieced together

Jonyak · #11 07-21-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakeman1066

what is a Stoner band supposed to look like?

we get compared to Reverend Bizarre, Acid King and Sabbath a lot

not saying its a bad thing... but..

usualy dirty long haired, you know... stoners.. haha.

Mo'Phat · #12 07-21-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakeman1066

trust me had you heard what we did coming out of the monitors you would have split too not to mention it's really hard to play with two other guys when you can't hear them and they can't hear you....

besides we were supposed to only play an hour anyway....

did you miss the part where we disovered they were starving the guitards amp? it probably a goof thing we ran when we did or his amp may have been damaged.....the strip it was plugged into was melted

I hear you, and I would have been frustrated as well. A couple of suggestions for NEXT TIME; do whatever it takes to perform the agreed upon amount of time. If you can't hear the other band members (which seems odd, the drummer is right there) both you and the guitarist could have angled inward toward each other and asked the PA operator to turn up the monitor mix. If the monitor mix sucked, tell the sound guy that, too. He doesn't know what to fix unless you tell him.

Also, you say you discovered the melted power strip with 20 minutes left. It takes only a few minutes to find another power strip and plug it in. Problem solved, and you have time for 3-4 more songs.

I wouldn't let a couple technical difficulties force me off the stage without trying to find a few solutions. Even though the crowd might not have been your crowd, all they saw was you guys cutting your show short. Regardless of the difficulties, you should have tried to fix them and kept playing.

Haysoochreesto · #13 07-21-2009, 12:05 PM

One more small tip. We always bring our own PA. We have a small one we use to practice with and that's fine for practice. But we have gigs booked through October and November right now, so we've already alloted money to rent a good PA for all those gigs. The worst we'll do is make a little less money by bringing our own PA.

Also, I think it was maybe a little premature to leave the stage, but whatever. Those kinds of things are in the moment decisions and its easy to say that "I would have done this or that" when you weren't actually onstage hearing vomit come out of the monitors.

Seems like it turned out alright in the end anyway.

Snakeman1066 · #14 07-21-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo'Phat

I hear you, and I would have been frustrated as well. A couple of suggestions for NEXT TIME; do whatever it takes to perform the agreed upon amount of time. If you can't hear the other band members (which seems odd, the drummer is right there) both you and the guitarist could have angled inward toward each other and asked the PA operator to turn up the monitor mix. If the monitor mix sucked, tell the sound guy that, too. He doesn't know what to fix unless you tell him.

Also, you say you discovered the melted power strip with 20 minutes left. It takes only a few minutes to find another power strip and plug it in. Problem solved, and you have time for 3-4 more songs.

I wouldn't let a couple technical difficulties force me off the stage without trying to find a few solutions. Even though the crowd might not have been your crowd, all they saw was you guys cutting your show short. Regardless of the difficulties, you should have tried to fix them and kept playing.

we could hear the drummer but he couldn't hear us, we tried a few times in between songs to get the problems fixed, but the guy that was trying to run sound was using a brand new board and didn't have a clue what he was doing....we even tried to get him to just turn them off....and even if they turned up the monitors the power amp was being starved and we just got more crap out of the monitors...it also affected the sound of the guitar as well...considering there were 5 bands after us we figured it was just better to get off the stage...had we actually played longer there may have been damage to both the power amp and our gutards amp...

it was just bad all the way around....

Snakeman1066 · #15 07-21-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Haysoochreesto

One more small tip. We always bring our own PA. We have a small one we use to practice with and that's fine for practice. But we have gigs booked through October and November right now, so we've already alloted money to rent a good PA for all those gigs. The worst we'll do is make a little less money by bringing our own PA.

Also, I think it was maybe a little premature to leave the stage, but whatever. Those kinds of things are in the moment decisions and its easy to say that "I would have done this or that" when you weren't actually onstage hearing vomit come out of the monitors.

Seems like it turned out alright in the end anyway.

We have a P.A. as well but didn't bring it because we were assured that a professional soundman would be there with a nice P.A. and all the bands would have to do is deal with their own gear

lesson learned