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08-11-2002, 03:54 PM
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Last night, I think I saw my 100th pair of female breasts from the stage. Not that I lose my riff whebn I can't help but see it while I'm playing. But to me, this whole half-drunk woman thing of lifting up their tops and screaming "woo woo" is getting worn out. I saw it year after year at Mardi Gras for years.
Moreover, these same women will tell you - "BUT I don't want to be perceived as just a sex object".........er, umm.....skewz me m'am - could you confuse me a little more, please????
What's worse, the cops came into the club and told the manager we would have to quit playing if the flashing didn't stop because the club would have to get something called "an adult cabaret license."
Outdoor gigs in 99-degree heat, I understand it. But, it seems to get the boyfriends ticked off and the club owners, too, when it gets out of hand at 1 am.
Is this stuff wearing a bit thin in your area yet??? As a guy, I figure I could bare my buns and probably empty the club.
Just curious, "Dear Abby".
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08-11-2002, 03:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Northern VA | | | you posted this thread solely to brag, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU? |
08-11-2002, 04:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC metro area | | Your life is tough. I pity you and your bandmates. Maybe you could start playing gay bars to avoid the abundant breasts. 
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08-11-2002, 04:14 PM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The land of chicken fried funk | | Quote: Originally posted by dancehallclasher
you posted this thread solely to brag, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU? | Hardly (no pun intended; you often crack me up, dancehall!).
It really does lead to problems. Boyfriends get P.O.'d because their dates attract every horn-dog in the joint and it leads to fights. The bouncers have to get on edge. Fights bring cops.
The undercover cops can get on the club owners if they're not on good terms.
It seems rampant at university/college gigs. That's okay but the Campus Activity Directors who pay us get hell for it when it causes problems.
If it wasn't so ubiquitous, it would retain its "outrageousness" and it would still be fun!!!
It just seems a little bit like the old days when all of we guys thought it was a big deal to moon the audience. Nowadays, it mooning seems practically "worn out."
The big difference was - we didn't start lawsuits when we got targeted as being "easy lays"!!! (Hell, being a musician does that already, doesn't it?  ).
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08-11-2002, 04:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada | | Quote: Originally posted by jondog
Your life is tough. I pity you and your bandmates. Maybe you could start playing gay bars to avoid the abundant breasts.
| i would be more afraid of what else gets.. uh... "flashed"
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08-11-2002, 04:21 PM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The land of chicken fried funk | | Quote: Originally posted by jondog
Your life is tough. I pity you and your bandmates.... | That's how we felt at first.......until it just became a weak as the Jim Morrison "lizard king" and it wasn't so much of a "party" any longer.
Bare midriffs are cool - but after seeing the 5000th ersatz J-Lo, the ones left to the imagination look cooler, IMO.
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08-11-2002, 04:38 PM
|  | Registered Misanthrope | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lee County, Alabama | | | And yet they wanna be taken seriously...
Well rickbass, I can't say I'm tired of having women flash me, but I see what you mean. I've noticed a bit of hipocrisy among women (girls?) in clubs that play "bootie music" on band breaks. First, we are told that women are not sex objects. And if we make a "sexist" remark we get the riot act read to us. Yet, when the "bootie music" is playing, these women will be on the dance floor shaking their butts and rubbing their body parts on men they don't even know! Dancing to sexist lyrics like "Just shake that a$$ bi%$h and let me see what you got" or "You a fine mot#$%f%$^er won't you back that a$$ up.
Seems like sexism is OK as long as you're having fun and lookin' hot! |
08-11-2002, 04:48 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by lneal
...Yet, when the "bootie music" is playing, these women will be on the dance floor shaking their butts and rubbing their body parts on men they don't even know! Dancing to sexist lyrics like "Just shake that a$$ bi%$h and let me see what you got" or "You a fine mot#$%f%$^er won't you back that a$$ up.
Seems like sexism is OK as long as you're having fun and lookin' hot! | Thanks for getting it, Ineal! Freak dancing always threw me a little as far as intent. But at least the "meat? wasn't in the butcher shop window.
New Year's Eve and Mardi Gras are one thing that I understand........another Friday night isn't.
I guess I'm just "old." Man, I'd be really rich is "date rape" applied to men!!!!
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08-11-2002, 06:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC metro area | | | Dance/rock clubs are there for people to hook up. It is not about the music, and despite what club owners think, it's not even about alcohol. Both music and beer serve to perpetuate the species via the weekly club ritual. So, at clubs we're just like the other animals in pre-mating situations - we display our desirable features (flashing) and protect our mates and/or display strength (fights). I'm pretty sure the women with the most attractive breasts leave with the winners of the fights.
Out of curiosity, on average what percentage of people at these clubs leave with someone new? 10%? 25%? How about those who leave alone, but w/ 1 or more phone #s? 15%?
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08-11-2002, 07:32 PM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The land of chicken fried funk | | Quote: Originally posted by jondog
...despite what club owners think, it's not even about alcohol..... | 
What is the name of this chain of altruistic clubs?
Dance/rock music and philanthropy...... I'm up for that!!!
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08-11-2002, 08:17 PM
| | Registered Misanthrope | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lee County, Alabama | | Quote: Originally posted by rickbass
What is the name of this chain of altruistic clubs?
Dance/rock music and philanthropy......I'm up for that!!! | LOL! |
08-11-2002, 08:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC metro area | | | Well, it's not philanthropy in that clubs do make a profit on alcohol. But, you don't have to drink. I've seen plenty of bands for no cover. I even met women there . . .
I used to have a drummer who worked as a bartender at a strip club. You had to pay for liquor, but they gave the beer away for free. They did have an expensive cover though. I saw many women there, but met none of them.
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08-12-2002, 04:49 PM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The land of chicken fried funk | | Quote: Originally posted by jondog
Well, it's not philanthropy in that clubs do make a profit on alcohol. But, you don't have to drink. I've seen plenty of bands for no cover.... | Yeah, jon - a high cover charge may compensate for the money a club would otherwise make at the bar.
With the way DUI levels have become so ridiculously minimal, drinking at a club is a hard decision if you're the driver. I gave up drinking years ago. But, they get my money on the cans of Red Bull now
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08-12-2002, 10:56 PM
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08-13-2002, 10:29 AM
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So play the gay bars, then. | I don't even want to think about what's getting whipped out in those places, Munji. But the dancing would sure be better!
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08-13-2002, 10:37 AM
|  | You don't want to do that. Trust me. Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: atlanta ga | | Quote: Originally posted by rickbass
But the dancing would sure be better! | alright, you've officially grossed me out here, bud.
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08-13-2002, 12:13 PM
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alright, you've officially grossed me out here, bud. | There's gotta be a prize for that!!!
No joke - some clubs I've played have these elevated dancing platforms in the middle of the floor or huge subwoofer cabs at the back of the room that people dance on (you've seen them, I imagine).
When some of the gay guys get up there and dance by themselves, the ladies know they can't even compete, so they stay on the floor. I guess flashing then becomes their only way to say, "Hey, look at me!!!"
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08-14-2002, 11:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada | | Quote: Originally posted by jondog
Dance/rock clubs are there for people to hook up. It is not about the music, and despite what club owners think, it's not even about alcohol. Both music and beer serve to perpetuate the species via the weekly club ritual. So, at clubs we're just like the other animals in pre-mating situations - we display our desirable features (flashing) and protect our mates and/or display strength (fights). I'm pretty sure the women with the most attractive breasts leave with the winners of the fights.
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08-15-2002, 12:00 AM
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08-15-2002, 12:08 AM
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Back on subject:
I love breasts and hope I never tire of them. They are a magnificent! Flashing is GRAND!!
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