|  | | 
11-22-2008, 07:49 PM
|  | ...and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.. | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NYC | |
Sign in to disble this ad
Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadbass  "Well, normally we pay the band $200, but you done drank $300 worth of beer!"
You wouldn't happen to be playing for the Good Ol Blues Brothers Boys Band, would you? | "My brothers in the car filling out an American Express Travelers Cheque to cover the extensive bar tab"  |
11-22-2008, 09:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ventura County, CA | | | To expand a bit on what happened:
We usually get the door during the time we play. This was always our agreement. This time, there was a slight change in policy, but it should not have cost us much. When we went to get paid though, they were going to give us $10 (each)! We wouldn't accept that! It seems when people came up to pay, they were asked if they were here to see the band. If so, the money went to us. If they said "no", the bar kept the money!
After much discussion, the bar owner (not the person in charge of the door) decided to give us some extra $$, and then also gave us a stack of gift certificates. By this point we had already paid our bar tab though. In total, we got "paid" more than we usually would for that place - but in actual cash it was almost half of what we'd normally take in.
Next time we play there, we will use the gift certs to have free dinner & drinks for us and our families. Luckily this is just a hobby for us, and we don't rely on the cash for anything!
__________________
Former Guitarist turned Bassist turned Guitarist. :hmm:
|
11-22-2008, 11:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ashtray It seems when people came up to pay, they were asked if they were here to see the band. If so, the money went to us. If they said "no", the bar kept the money!
| Seeing the band and hearing the band are two different things.
I hope everyone heard the band.
That's just another way for the bar owner to stiff the musicians. Getting paid "the door" is "the door". None of this question asking BS.
Basically, you'd have to bring all of your friends, do your own advertising, etc. to make any money. Getting paid $15 is ridiculous.
Isn't the cover charge supposed to be for the live music? If the people that said they weren't there to see the band, then they shouldn't have paid anything to get in since having a band didnt' matter to them. |
11-24-2008, 07:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ashtray To expand a bit on what happened:
We usually get the door during the time we play. This was always our agreement. This time, there was a slight change in policy, but it should not have cost us much. When we went to get paid though, they were going to give us $10 (each)! We wouldn't accept that! It seems when people came up to pay, they were asked if they were here to see the band. If so, the money went to us. If they said "no", the bar kept the money!
After much discussion, the bar owner (not the person in charge of the door) decided to give us some extra $$, and then also gave us a stack of gift certificates. By this point we had already paid our bar tab though. In total, we got "paid" more than we usually would for that place - but in actual cash it was almost half of what we'd normally take in.
Next time we play there, we will use the gift certs to have free dinner & drinks for us and our families. Luckily this is just a hobby for us, and we don't rely on the cash for anything! | No, none of that makes the story any better. If you bought that nonsense about people being asked if they were there to see the band or not you are easily fooled. It really makes no difference to me that you are a hobbyist. You obviously think the gift certificate thing is wrong otherwise you wouldn't have started this thread.
As for playing at the bar next time, I would make sure that next time you have a proper agreement with the venue for a realistic fee in cash. By all means cash in those drinks vouchers, but make sure you get paid. Personally there wouldn't be a next time for me.
Let me put it to you another way too. It's all very nice that you don't care that you had your pants pulled down and spanked here, and it's all very nice that the money isn't an issue for you, but what you are also doing is supporting the venue's unprofessional treatment of you.
There are other bands out there who take what they do more seriously and who could probably do with the work you guys are seemingly so nonchalant about. Why would a venue like that give anyone serious work when they can just get guys like you in and pay them in drinks vouchers after they profited on the admission cost with some lie about whether people were there to see the band or not?
I hope this is a lesson to anyone else out there that this kind of thing is sub-par and shouldn't really be tolerated.
Last edited by mutedeity : 11-24-2008 at 07:28 PM.
|
11-24-2008, 07:49 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northeast, US | | | Gotta ask - how old are the people in this band?
__________________
+
Frank
|
11-25-2008, 05:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ventura County, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by SBassman Gotta ask - how old are the people in this band? | Uh... I'm not seeing where this is going, but I'll answer: old.  Most of the guys are 40-50's.
__________________
Former Guitarist turned Bassist turned Guitarist. :hmm:
|
11-26-2008, 11:20 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Covina (LA), SoCal | | | You guys should lay off the OP. He didn't seem all that upset about how he was paid, just hat he would have preferred they paid him BEFORE they paid their tab. Since theyre going to play there again, next time they wont have to run up a tab. He doesnt care about making money from the band, they just want to play. Leave them alone and let them do what they want. You dont like it, then you dont have to play there. But don't sit there behind your computer acting all high and mighty because this guys band doesnt mind playing for the deal they got.
__________________
Bassist for Starveya - www.reverbnation.com/starveya
Sat June 9th @ Shamrocks in Chino Hills - 10pm
Bassist - Veg#33, Buddhist#11, LGBT#5
|
11-26-2008, 11:38 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Grand Rapids MI | | | The biggest problem I would have with it is that that changed terms on you guys. Otherwise, a deal's a deal no matter what it is. I don't believe in the "no band should do this because its bad for all bands." I worry about my band and what we can offer a bar owner.
I may go back but I would make sure everyone knew exactly what we were exptected to get paid and I would hold the bar to it.
__________________
Mike Lull club #4
Warwick club #66
Mike Lull Prototype
Upgraded Spector Legend
94 Warwick Streamer Bolt On
GK 1001RBII
Dr Bass 115 and 210
|
11-26-2008, 11:51 AM
|  | Semi-Retired
Endorsing Artist: FBB Bass Works/Barker Bass | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Monroe Twp, NJ | | This type of thing happens far too frequently with casual "hobby-esque" bands, and it's definitely not the strangest deal I've ever heard of. Personally, I'd be screaming p*ssed off, but OTOH I'd never have put myself in a situation like that where some pond-scum club owner treats musicians like dirt.
If the OP is all right with getting shafted, it's not my position to tell him he's wrong. But allowing this type of weirdness is one of the reasons why there will be another thread in a day or two or three with yet another musician griping about getting screwed ....
If you're having a problem being treated with respect, just take a look in the mirror for the answer ..... | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off | | | |
