got my guitar back from my friend

gruda · #1 11-03-2009, 07:01 PM

a few years ago i lent a gibson lp to a friend and i just got it back when we came to visit from CA. anyway we open up the case to find my lp neck cracked, the body caved in in one place, and the pickups ripped up. the darn ariport security opend my case and played my guitar then sdropped it and stuck it back in the case without a care i am mad! any suggestions?

dnarock · #2 11-03-2009, 07:05 PM

Are you sure it was the airport ? not your buddy ?

Krakmann · #3 11-03-2009, 07:07 PM

Salud!

Police. Fingerprints.

St Drogo · #4 11-03-2009, 07:07 PM

You sure it was airport security and not that "friend" of yours? I mean, I don't know the arrangements you made, but if I loan an instrument to a friend, I usually want it back sooner than in "a few years". So if he messed that up, who knows man... Not trying to set you guys up against each other, just sayin'.

gruda · #5 11-03-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dnarock

Are you sure it was the airport ? not your buddy ?

no i trust my friend with my life i know he'd never lie to me, He was just as shook up as i was, he wants to replace it but i said lets wait for the airport, The airport is looking at security tapes to find out how the guitar was treated

Bassman203 · #6 11-03-2009, 07:12 PM

If your friend did it, he's a dick. But I wouldn't jump to conclusions. Obviously you trust him if you let him borrow it for that long, so you make the call.

But call the airport, complain, ask to view security tapes (I don't know if that's legal or anything but might as well try), do whatever, just make yourself a problem and they should just pay for a new guitar instead of dealing with you.

gruda · #7 11-03-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by St Drogo

You sure it was airport security and not that "friend" of yours? I mean, I don't know the arrangements you made, but if I loan an instrument to a friend, I usually want it back sooner than in "a few years". So if he messed that up, who knows man... Not trying to set you guys up against each other, just sayin'.

the loan was basically me giving it to him, he just bought one, after a painful divorce, thats why he returned mine

Disappear · #8 11-03-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dnarock

Are you sure it was the airport ? not your buddy ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by St Drogo

You sure it was airport security and not that "friend" of yours? I mean, I don't know the arrangements you made, but if I loan an instrument to a friend, I usually want it back sooner than in "a few years". So if he messed that up, who knows man... Not trying to set you guys up against each other, just sayin'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassman203

If your friend did it, he's a dick. But I wouldn't jump to conclusions. Obviously you trust him if you let him borrow it for that long, so you make the call.

But call the airport, complain, ask to view security tapes (I don't know if that's legal or anything but might as well try), do whatever, just make yourself a problem and they should just pay for a new guitar instead of dealing with you.

Thread echo much?

Jimmy Bones · #9 11-04-2009, 02:00 AM

If it was a painful divorce, maybe his ex did it?

Anyhow, pix or no guitar damage. :P

gruda · #10 11-04-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Bones

If it was a painful divorce, maybe his ex did it?

Anyhow, pix or no guitar damage. :P

im packing the guitar to be sent to gibson, i forgot to take pics

**Stumbo** · #11 11-04-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Bones

...maybe his ex did it?

+1

+2 on the Finger prints.

Anyone else have stories about equipment being ruined by airport baggage handlers/security?

sirpug · #12 11-04-2009, 02:31 PM

I worked for an airline that will remain unnamed

. I was an aircraft mechanic so I didn't handle baggage but there's a reason why I carry everything I possibly can on. I like to ship larger items via UPS if I have time or if it doesn't have to be at the location immediately (i.e. shipping a vacation purchase home). With UPS you at least have insurance with the option to purchase more then the $100 every package ships with for free. Only things that get checked for me are extra clothes (I ALWAYS carry at least 1 full spare change of clothes with me) and I plan for at least a 1 day delay in my checked baggage, just in case.

Now the disclaimer, I've actually never had an issue with my baggage. Never seemed to be disturbed, smashed or lost. I've just been down in the baggage wells and cargo holds and watched these people work. Just remember that a lot of them are pissed off at something or other and your baggage is a good place to take that anger out. Unfortunately they know that if they damage or steel something the airline (who they're generally pissed at) will have to pay for the item so it's a win/win for them. Not all employees are like this but enough of them are to ruin it for everybody.

**jmattbassplaya** · #13 11-04-2009, 02:46 PM

...and that`s why I don`t loan instruments.

Obviously none of us know whether or not it was your friend or the airline who smashed up the guitar, but for me, loaning almost anything to anyone is too big of a risk. If anyone`s going to damage a guitar of mine it`s going to be me. I know I`d just freak out way too much if something like this happened and I couldn`t put the blame on myself.

Govier966 · #14 11-04-2009, 02:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo
reminds me of this guy, they paid for the guitar after he gave them a bad rep on the web to 6,000,000 people

gruda · #15 11-04-2009, 03:43 PM

well i listed the help of my friends and were having a pizza and all call AA over and over, so far today i called 10+ they admitted they were at fault for breaking it but it was my fault for having it put with luggage, So if you guys want to call up american airlines and ask why they broke my guitar

FPFbass · #16 11-04-2009, 06:04 PM

A bit of advice about airport/airlines, bug them enough, they get sick of you, and then they'll find a way to end whatever you've been bothering them about.

Rattman · #17 11-04-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

...and that`s why I don`t loan instruments.

Obviously none of us know whether or not it was your friend or the airline who smashed up the guitar, but for me, loaning almost anything to anyone is too big of a risk. If anyone`s going to damage a guitar of mine it`s going to be me. I know I`d just freak out way too much if something like this happened and I couldn`t put the blame on myself.

That's the point for everyone to remember: no loaning of instruments.. unless you are very close by, and then only for a short period of time...

gruda · #18 11-04-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattman

That's the point for everyone to remember: no loaning of instruments.. unless you are very close by, and then only for a short period of time...

see i know my friend, if he broke it he'd tell me, i trust him with my life i trust him more than my brother

Gubna · #19 11-04-2009, 06:25 PM

I went through security at SFO recently with my baby taylor. the guy was overly precautious. First, he told me what he was going to do, then would ask if that was okay. then, asked me to open it, up and hold it while he scanned the gig bag. then he swabbed it and analyzed it for (I can only assume drug and/or anthrax residue). I did ask him if he wanted me to demonstrate that I could actually play it.

"no, that's not necessary, sir".

I'm not much of a fan of country, but this one "United Breaks Guitars" is pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

dnarock · #20 11-04-2009, 06:26 PM

trust or no trust . the only thing I lent to a friend was my cheapo Tradition 5er and he fixed a problem and gave it back . So take this as a life lesson and don't lend out your things if you care about them cause you never know what can happen !
And if I still played guitar I would definitely not let go of my lp !