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07-14-2009, 10:18 AM
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Figured this would be a funny thread...
I've been working with this singer songwriter for a few years now, and the product of our working together has been pretty solid. We're currently working on a new album, and the producer shot me a text to tell me to get my act together or that he'll bring in another bassist.
I don't have much of an issue with this, if I can't cut it- thats the way of the world. My gripe is that he's telling me this bassist is a guitarist who tracked electric guitar on some tracks and can also "play bass".
Does anyone have similar stories about losing/almost losing a gig to someone who doesn't really play the bass?
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07-14-2009, 11:32 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Philly | | | There are lots of guitar players who play bass and visa-versa. Tal is one of them. We're all expendible......so you may want to get your act together.
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07-14-2009, 11:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oakland, NJ | | I don't exactly understand where you're coming from with your remark, but I'm just trying to see if theres anyone else whos been in a similar situation. I thank you for your concern for my well being, but I'm doing alright. 
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07-14-2009, 11:57 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Studio City, CA | | | I know that my singer/songwriter is taping our practice sessions and using my warm up jams as the basis for 'his' new material. Annoying that he doesn't give me credit, but even more annoying that he wants to jump from rehearsal halls to tours without doing shows between. I am not a lab rat, I work for a living - well I don't make a living playing bass you get what I mean.
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07-14-2009, 12:03 PM
| | Registered User A&R, Soulless Corporation Records | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Round Rock, TX | | I heard something similar from the drummer. He said they were thinking about replacing me with a friend of the singers who plays guitar and bass on the side. I knew him too, so I met him. I asked to see him play. He SUCKED. I also had a video on my cell. While it's taping, I ask if I can try. And I rcord me kicking his butt. He actually said "You're way better than me". Sent this to the drummer. That was the end of that. Teach them to try to replace me.  | 
07-15-2009, 09:33 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Philly | | | "the producer shot me a text to tell me to get my act together or that he'll bring in another bassist."
Must have been a reason why he shot you that text. Bringing in a guitar player who plays bass seemed to upset you.
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07-16-2009, 08:17 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oakland, NJ | | The idea of bringing someone I know to be a guitarist who happens to pick away at bass was the issue, I wouldn't have been as upset if he told me another bassist had rolled in. I'm heading in next week to do the tracks, so I'm guessing he didn't follow through 
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07-16-2009, 08:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brussels | | | i think some people here have the misconception that one needs to play bass exclusivley to be any good at it. some guitards are awesome bassists and vice versa.
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07-16-2009, 08:25 AM
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07-16-2009, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by a_magg The idea of bringing someone I know to be a guitarist who happens to pick away at bass was the issue, I wouldn't have been as upset if he told me another bassist had rolled in. I'm heading in next week to do the tracks, so I'm guessing he didn't follow through  | You're choosing to look at the most insignificant part of what you've been told.
If the producer said, "...and I'll bring it a construction worker I know who plays bass..." or "...a doctor...", etc. does that even matter?
Do you honestly feel that guitar players who also play bass cannot do it well or authentically simply because they choose guitar as their primary instrument?
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07-16-2009, 08:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oakland, NJ | | | Haha no no I'm not stating that. I know the cat in question and I know of his playing- which primarily consists of noodling guitar riffs on the bass. He even pulled the classic "bass is just a guitar with four strings, so of course its easy to play" conversation at a diner this past winter.
I should've included that in the initial post, that was the basis of my posting.
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07-16-2009, 09:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bridgewater, Virginia | | | Not sure why you guys are antagonizing the OP over that some guitards can play bass. It's in Bass Humor. It's a joke. =p.
P.S.: I'm a smiley rebel sometimes. Those text smileys just look so much better sometimes. Like that smiley I put up there. If it was the actually smiley, it'd be all happy like. That one is kind of sarcastic. Hits home better. =p
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07-16-2009, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by a_magg Haha no no I'm not stating that. I know the cat in question and I know of his playing- which primarily consists of noodling guitar riffs on the bass. He even pulled the classic "bass is just a guitar with four strings, so of course its easy to play" conversation at a diner this past winter.
I should've included that in the initial post, that was the basis of my posting. | Well that's a very different thing than saying just because someone is primarily a guitar player that he cannot also be a really good bass player.
Anyone copping the attitude that playing any instrument is easier, better, more cool, etc. than any other instrument has their head squarely up their excrement exit chute. Quote: |
Not sure why you guys are antagonizing the OP over that some guitards can play bass. It's in Bass Humor. It's a joke.
| Coincidentally, just like the fact that just because a person plays guitar does not automatically mean he cannot play bass; just because a post is in "Bass Humor" does not automatically mean it's funny! ;-)
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07-16-2009, 09:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oakland, NJ | | Yeah, I'm not taking any offense to anything being said, I take it all with a grain of salt on here, my bad for not really representing what I was really going for.
But you can see the comedy that belies my ::rage:: against my producer? I told him after the conversation that if he did go through with using the guitard, he'd so be nuking the fridge on that album! 
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07-16-2009, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tZer Coincidentally, just like the fact that just because a person plays guitar does not automatically mean he cannot play bass; just because a post is in "Bass Humor" does not automatically mean it's funny! ;-) | I see what you did there 
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07-16-2009, 10:43 AM
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07-16-2009, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by geeza Nuking the fridge? | Something I picked up from someplace else. It refers to the scene in the new Indiana Jones movie where he survives the atomic blast by hiding in the fridge. People started using it to describe anything that defies common logic.
Perhaps its a little nerdy... 
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07-16-2009, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by a_magg Something I picked up from someplace else. It refers to the scene in the new Indiana Jones movie where he survives the atomic blast by hiding in the fridge. People started using it to describe anything that defies common logic.
Perhaps its a little nerdy...  | I see I need to catch up on my movie watching.
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07-16-2009, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by geeza I see I need to catch up on my movie watching. | Or perhaps I need to slow mine down a bit... In any case, its a funny term to use because, simply put- its ridiculous. There are several definitions on UrbanDictionary if anyones into that.
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