Guittard candy bar! Hahaha!!!

[TSkills]

I'm sure I'm not the first to see this, but I thought it was so funny
I had to buy one.

[5string5fingers]

sorry dude Present for your favorite Guitard.

[Rick Auricchio]

I've seen the chocolate before. But since I never refer to a guitarist as a "guitard," it's never been funny.

I don't see why everyone thinks it's funny to use a derogatory label for a guitarist. True, many guitarists don't understand how to play in an ensemble format, but that's because their instruments are commonly used for solo performance.

As bassists, we have no choice but to fit properly with an ensemble. There are very few solo bass acts, just as there are almost no solo drum acts. Guitarists, on the other hand, learn from the start to play solo. So, even if they're accomplished players, they have to later learn to play as part of a group. Their ideas of arrangement, tone, and volume all stem from the solo capability of their instrument.

The same could be said for keyboard players, who have always played solo.

I'm sure this childish attitude of some bassists has been cause for some unflattering nicknames for us...

[M0ses]

It's funny when people can't even take a joke that's not directed at them.

[Beginner Bass]

Originally Posted by Rick Auricchio

I've seen the chocolate before. But since I never refer to a guitarist as a "guitard," it's never been funny.

I don't see why everyone thinks it's funny to use a derogatory label for a guitarist. True, many guitarists don't understand how to play in an ensemble format, but that's because their instruments are commonly used for solo performance.

As bassists, we have no choice but to fit properly with an ensemble. There are very few solo bass acts, just as there are almost no solo drum acts. Guitarists, on the other hand, learn from the start to play solo. So, even if they're accomplished players, they have to later learn to play as part of a group. Their ideas of arrangement, tone, and volume all stem from the solo capability of their instrument.

The same could be said for keyboard players, who have always played solo.

I'm sure this childish attitude of some bassists has been cause for some unflattering nicknames for us...

We call them guitards because, as basists, we are arrogant elitists who feel the need to bolster our self-confidence through the desecration of other band members.

[bassteban]

There's a fine line betwixt childish & childlike- perhaps a bit of overlap.
That said, mmm:

[Rick Auricchio]

Originally Posted by M0ses

It's funny when people can't even take a joke that's not directed at them.

No, my point is that it would be smarter to help teach guitarists to play better in an ensemble situation. Just calling them guitards does nothing to improve the music.

[redzebra6]

Originally Posted by Rick Auricchio

...I don't see why everyone thinks it's funny to use a derogatory label for a guitarist. True, many guitarists don't understand how to play in an ensemble format, but that's because their instruments are commonly used for solo performance.

I've played guitar a whole lot longer than playing bass, and I find it funny. A good portion of guitar-ist think they are the next coming of Yngwie van Hammett Satriani Scofield Vai Clapton the Third. There are some that are not. I like those better.

Originally Posted by Rick Auricchio

No, my point is that it would be smarter to help teach guitarists to play better in an ensemble situation. Just calling them guitards does nothing to improve the music.

The trick is to get them to listen. The hardest step is to get them to realize how oblivious they are. They can't learn unless they want to.

Originally Posted by M0ses

It's funny when people can't even take a joke that's not directed at them.

I do see Rick Auricchio's point. And I'm sure they have names for us also. No big deal.

Just remember though: Stereotypes exist because they're true.

[nsmar4211]

ooooooo chocolate.......I don't care what name it goes under .


As for the guitard issue....every instrument has an affectionate nickname. Brass= Bra**holes. Woodwinds: wusswinds. Drummers: dummers. And that's just the sectional names.

Lighten up . We're basstards

[Atticus]

Also, guitard is quicker to type than guitarist. Just saying.

I don't call every guitarist a guitard, but if they can't prove that they are capable of being part of a band and not being in a vehicle for their shredding ability then I would demean guitarists everywhere by association if I called them a guitarist.

[Rick Auricchio]

+1 to Atticus and redzebra. A bozo is still a bozo, no matter what instrument he plays!

[R. Laevinus]

Originally Posted by Rick Auricchio

I've seen the chocolate before. But since I never refer to a guitarist as a "guitard," it's never been funny.

I don't see why everyone thinks it's funny to use a derogatory label for a guitarist. True, many guitarists don't understand how to play in an ensemble format, but that's because their instruments are commonly used for solo performance.

I disagree completely.

My first instrument was piano, which is a solo instrument primarily. I then played clarinet - an ensemble instrument - then back to violin, again an instrument with a vast solo repertoire. I then spent several years studying vocal performance - which can go either way - before I took up with saxophone (mostly solo these days), guitar (which you claim is solo, but I disagree), and bass.

Whatever instrument I happen to be playing, I am always aware of the group's sound and mindful of my own contribution. Having played 'solo' instruments does not make me a musically handicapped moron, as are a large proportion of the guitarists I've had the uncomfortable honor of playing with.

I think it has a lot more to do with the individual than with the instrument. There is no instrument which cannot be played solo - likewise there is no instrument which cannot be played in an ensemble. There are, however, PEOPLE who cannot play in ensembles, and - sadly - many guitarists these days fall into that category.

To be fair, though, I have met just as many bassists (proportionally speaking, I know fewer bassists than guitarists) who similarly fail to comprehend the nuances of ensemble playing.

[Gard]

Originally Posted by Rick Auricchio

+1 to Atticus and redzebra. A bozo is still a bozo, no matter what instrument he plays!

Yup.

That said, and speaking as a former guitarist myself, it seems that most of them that I have worked with could be labeled "bozo" or "guitard", unfortunately.

I'm lucky, I guess, when I was a guitarist, my primary influence was Alex Lifeson, who is the epitome of an ensemble guitarist, IMO.

[Wasted Bassist]

Originally Posted by Rick Auricchio

I'm sure this childish attitude of some bassists has been cause for some unflattering nicknames for us...

Or it could be because some people have no sense of humor.

[TheSuzie]

Originally Posted by redzebra6

The trick is to get them to listen. The hardest step is to get them to realize how oblivious they are. They can't learn unless they want to.

Funny thing but all my str8 married friends say the exact same thing about their husbands 8)

Originally Posted by redzebra6

Just remember though: Stereotypes exist because they're true.

Peace,
S

[Chowowbus]

I never even heard of the word guitard until I came to talkbass.
I cant call my bands guitarist a guitard because he is way freaking smarter than I am...
Anyways...funny cheap humor that just keeps getting funnier as the posts pile on!

[levis76]

Originally Posted by Rick Auricchio

I've seen the chocolate before. But since I never refer to a guitarist as a "guitard," it's never been funny.

I don't see why everyone thinks it's funny to use a derogatory label for a guitarist. True, many guitarists don't understand how to play in an ensemble format, but that's because their instruments are commonly used for solo performance.

As bassists, we have no choice but to fit properly with an ensemble. There are very few solo bass acts, just as there are almost no solo drum acts. Guitarists, on the other hand, learn from the start to play solo. So, even if they're accomplished players, they have to later learn to play as part of a group. Their ideas of arrangement, tone, and volume all stem from the solo capability of their instrument.

The same could be said for keyboard players, who have always played solo.

I'm sure this childish attitude of some bassists has been cause for some unflattering nicknames for us...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsf8LnThk5Y

[shadow_FIX]

Jokes aside, Guittard chocolate is some serious business.

[FunkMetalBass]

Why are there serious conversations & lectures of morality in a Bass HUMOR forum?

Back to the humorous stuff:
Guittard chocolate looks delicious. After finishing a bar of it, I will officially be able to claim that I enjoyed a Guittard!

[KOakley]

Last Christmas I gave both guitar players in my band one of these candy bars. They didn't get the joke. Our drummer had to explain to them.