Had a great gig... WITH A BEHRINGER!

GearHeadBassMan · #1 12-06-2008, 01:00 AM

Ok, so had a gig about 120 miles from home base today, and had to ask the other bands playing if we could use cabs since we couldn't fit ours in the van with all of us.

Anyway, we get to the show, which is at a church. First of all, place is PACKED... like 100+ in the kind of place you'd expect 40 or so.

Unfortunately for us, the band that we were borrowing off of didn't really know much about amps and had two small combos (which they thought were cabs) and the bass rig is a behr ultrabass 1x10 with 300 watts (according to the faceplate)

We set up and I did what I could with the behr (thank god I had my sansamp!) and it actually sounded passable, if a little too lost in the mix/no definition. But the gig went great, we sold a whole bunch of merch and the show organizers threw us a nice wad of cash! We got another show tomorrow and I'm really excited!

So good to be back out playing shows!

monokeytoe9 · #2 12-06-2008, 01:13 AM

Berhingers are like fat girls...if u know what i mean. No offense to fat girls...but you know what i mean.

Psychicpet · #3 12-06-2008, 01:18 AM

a lot of time gear is like soloing.

FORGET what the sticker (scale/chord is) and just go with what sounds good.

It is music after all and when all is said and done, if you can't make it smile.. errr... sound good on a Behringer... it IS NOT gonna be any better with Beyonce... I mean, more expensive gear.

iamthebassplayr · #4 12-06-2008, 01:28 AM

Good luck on tomorrow's show...

Psychotic_Hell · #5 12-06-2008, 01:34 AM

I have a Behringer Bx4410 and i make a decent noise out of it.

I actually had the owner of the studio that we go to say that my bass was the best he has heard, and this is coming from a guy that hears tonnes of basses a day!

Imagine what he says when i actually get a good setup :P:P:P

atheos · #6 12-06-2008, 01:48 AM

Oh please not this thread again. The worst thing about Behringer is its reputation, period. They have lots of sucky products but they also have plenty of stuff that makes your jaw drop when you hear the sound and see the price at the same time. And so what if they fail? I have backups. And I buy my Behringer stuff from Thomann, they have 3 year full warranty for everything, that's 2,5 years more than what you get if you buy a Sansamp from a local store.

Behringers are all about...
1) Don't buy without hearing/reading multiple user reviews - the first impression fails way too often.
2) If you have a chance, buy from a local store and try before you buy so you don't get a broken one.

JQ1986 · #7 12-06-2008, 02:07 AM

I've actually been very satisfied with the 2 Behringer combo amps I've bought. I have the Ultrabass BX600 (but I accidentally broke both input jacks) and an Ultrabass BX1800. Never had a problem with either one messing up or sounding crappy on stage.

GearHeadBassMan · #8 12-06-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by atheos

Oh please not this thread again. The worst thing about Behringer is its reputation, period. They have lots of sucky products but they also have plenty of stuff that makes your jaw drop when you hear the sound and see the price at the same time. And so what if they fail? I have backups. And I buy my Behringer stuff from Thomann, they have 3 year full warranty for everything, that's 2,5 years more than what you get if you buy a Sansamp from a local store.

Behringers are all about...
1) Don't buy without hearing/reading multiple user reviews - the first impression fails way too often.
2) If you have a chance, buy from a local store and try before you buy so you don't get a broken one.

yeah, the reason the behr was letting me down was because it couldn't move enough air with the one speaker it had. when it was just me, my sansamp's tone was there and wonderful! i wouldn't get one, but I gave the thing some credit!

"It is music after all and when all is said and done, if you can't make it smile.. errr... sound good on a Behringer... it IS NOT gonna be any better with Beyonce... I mean, more expensive gear."

I like this!

TheGrizz · #9 12-06-2008, 04:18 PM

Behringer has more than just a bad reputation. They have mediocre construction all the way across the board, with a few exceptions. I used to work at a Behringer dealer, and I saw DOZENS of products come back. These amps are held together with hot glue, and often cost more to fix than they are worth! Behringer products can sound good, but I would never trust one for more than at home practice. Just my opinion...

Brother Nothing · #10 12-06-2008, 04:37 PM

yeah ... i've been using a behringer for a few years now and have never had a problem with my tone ... however, the input is pretty shoddy. if i move the wrong way i can lose my signal. i'm never buying behringer again, and i know that i could've gotten somehting much better for the money (like a used peavey or GK) but overall i think i've gotten my money's worth. i just know now that i could've gotten more than my money's worth.

fretlessguy · #11 12-06-2008, 07:51 PM

Hey! Y'all ( I am from Arkansas) watchout! The moderators do not like people trashing Behringers or Bongos!

Be wise.

GearHeadBassMan · #12 12-07-2008, 02:15 AM

nope, not a thread against behringer, just saying, even with a behr, my tone was great and I had a great weekend because of it!

as a matter of fact, tonight's gig I had an Ampeg ba115 to use and it was terrible! waaaay too quiet and I couldn't hear myself the whole set! still a good show from what the audience said but just goes to show ya!

BIGBEE · #13 12-07-2008, 06:10 AM

fat girls BIG BOTTOM ,

Joe Nerve · #14 12-07-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGrizz

Behringer has more than just a bad reputation. They have mediocre construction all the way across the board, with a few exceptions. I used to work at a Behringer dealer, and I saw DOZENS of products come back. These amps are held together with hot glue, and often cost more to fix than they are worth! Behringer products can sound good, but I would never trust one for more than at home practice. Just my opinion...

Go to any amp repair shop and count the other brands of amps you see in there. IME all amps are hit or miss and lots of them wind up sent back or going in for repairs. When someone pays next to nothing for something though and it ends up in a repair shop everyone is real quick to laugh and say, "whaddja expect?!?" I think people get a kick out of this for some reason - maybe because they don't want to feel like idiots for paying 5Xs as much for something without getting 5X the benefit.

I defend Behringer because I owned a 60 watt 112 for several years that never gave me a single problem and held up volume and tone wise to a lot of other amps I've owned with lots more power, bigger speakers, and much higher pircetags. Only reason I sold it was because I had no use for it anymore and it was just taking up space. I could write a pretty long list of amps I've had or played through with much better reputations that have wound up crapping out on me.

TheGrizz · #15 12-07-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

Go to any amp repair shop and count the other brands of amps you see in there. IME all amps are hit or miss and lots of them wind up sent back or going in for repairs. When someone pays next to nothing for something though and it ends up in a repair shop everyone is real quick to laugh and say, "whaddja expect?!?" I think people get a kick out of this for some reason - maybe because they don't want to feel like idiots for paying 5Xs as much for something without getting 5X the benefit.

I defend Behringer because I owned a 60 watt 112 for several years that never gave me a single problem and held up volume and tone wise to a lot of other amps I've owned with lots more power, bigger speakers, and much higher pircetags. Only reason I sold it was because I had no use for it anymore and it was just taking up space. I could write a pretty long list of amps I've had or played through with much better reputations that have wound up crapping out on me.

To be clear...I'm not bashing Behringer. I'm simply sharing my experience with their products. Bashing is by definition, is to engage in harsh, accusatory, threatening criticism. Please let me know if I venture into the parameters of the above defintion.

The place I worked is a full service shop. They do everything...including amp repair. I agree, all amps are hit or miss. But some brands tend to have a lot more misses. I will admit I think it's funny when someone gets a brand new piece of gear, fries it, and runs out and gets the same thing over again.

True a lot of amps that weren't Behringer came in...but a lot of what came in was for maintainence, not all out failures. Behringers that came in always seemed to have something severely wrong. Other amps did too, but this occured farther from the manufacturing date than Behringer. And other amps were actually worth fixing. After parts and labor you can just buy a new unit!

I never said you couldn't get good tone. I just said they offer a cheaply constructed product that I have seen fail numerous times. It's just what I've seen. Many amps never came back, so for all I know those amps are still kicking around out there. I've played a lot of what they have to offer, and there are some good deals, but as a gigging musician I personally wouldn't bother. IMO None of there stuff can go toe-to-toe with my V4, construction, tone or otherwise, and I'm looking to upgrade.

Jeff Martinez · #16 12-07-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by monokeytoe9

Berhingers are like fat girls...if u know what i mean. No offense to fat girls...but you know what i mean.

Awww yyeeeaaahhh. I know exactly what you mean... oh... um... er... Behringers are not bad, either.

BryanSwift · #17 12-10-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by atheos

Oh please not this thread again. The worst thing about Behringer is its reputation, period. They have lots of sucky products but they also have plenty of stuff that makes your jaw drop when you hear the sound and see the price at the same time. And so what if they fail? I have backups. And I buy my Behringer stuff from Thomann, they have 3 year full warranty for everything, that's 2,5 years more than what you get if you buy a Sansamp from a local store.

Behringers are all about...
1) Don't buy without hearing/reading multiple user reviews - the first impression fails way too often.
2) If you have a chance, buy from a local store and try before you buy so you don't get a broken one.

+100 on that

behringer.ning.com

wingnut · #18 12-11-2008, 09:11 AM

The Behringer I bought as a backup about two years ago is still out there on stage about once a week. I sold it to another bass player about a year ago and he gigs with it almost every weekend. A very popular URB player here in Vegas plays one at least twice a week and has for almost five years now. Both amps in this instance are the BX4500's. It seems strange that people will buy a cheap bass with crappy electronics and then spend another two hundred dollars making sound right. But when it comes to buying a cheap amp and changing the input jacks and beefing up the speaker connections, that's just out of the question...

KrisH · #19 12-11-2008, 10:55 AM

My Behringer FX3000 sounds good and is loud (with a Digitech GNX3000) and has held up reliably for a year. No grief, compliments on tone. Can be pushed to distortion in very loud venues, though. Hate the carpet covering, but I guess that's the fashion now.

daffy · #20 12-11-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wingnut

The Behringer I bought as a backup about two years ago is still out there on stage about once a week. I sold it to another bass player about a year ago and he gigs with it almost every weekend. A very popular URB player here in Vegas plays one at least twice a week and has for almost five years now. Both amps in this instance are the BX4500's. It seems strange that people will buy a cheap bass with crappy electronics and then spend another two hundred dollars making sound right. But when it comes to buying a cheap amp and changing the input jacks and beefing up the speaker connections, that's just out of the question...

I have the same BX4500 and a BB410 cab. Sounds great - and I have had a half dozen bass players come up and say that to me after gigs, and two who asked if they could use it instead of their own rig which was much more high end.

It's going on I guess 4 years (3 years - I forget now) without a single problem. The only reason I will eventually get rid of it is for something lighter - it's very heavy!! Got my eye on a MarkBass, but I'm in no hurry.