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06-10-2010, 11:07 AM
|  | Gettin' medieval on yo' bass... | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: new hampshire | | | Humbled by a teenager
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My daughter's high school jazz band concert was last night (she plays clarinet). They sounded great. But the bassist -- holy crap! I'm not sure I could even follow what the kid was doing. I know I'm just a hobbyist, that I've only been playing this instrument since last fall, but I like to think I've been picking it up fast and am reasonably competent. But this kid... let's just say I'm not going to challenge him to a bassoff anytime soon. Just had to say it.
Oh and he sings, too. As in, well. |
06-10-2010, 11:42 AM
|  | On the TB leaderboard for low talent/gear ratios! | | Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NJ | | Don't feel bad, I'm pretty amazed by the bass players in my son's middle school jazz band too. Last year they had none but this year they have two, both 8th grade girls. One has played cello in the school's orchestra for several years and decided to try playing upright in the jazz band this year. The other girl never played before but decided this year to try playing bass. Both sound great, I'm sure they can sight read circles around me, and if they keep it up they'll be monsters by the time they get out of school.
Good for them. They started when they were young and it was easy to learn. I started playing bass when I was about 38 or so and didn't start taking lessons until I was 44. No matter how much time and effort I put into I'll probably never play like them. But I figure "So what?". I"m having fun and I suck a little less every day. 
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06-10-2010, 11:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tyneside, UK | | | I find these young musicians to be kinda boring. Sorry, but I do. Sure, they can sight-read and play over any progression, but they just seem robotic and completely unfeeling.
I had the misfortune to have to deal with one of these guys in my church band and although he was a great player, he didn't really have a feel for the music at all beyond a technical view.
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06-10-2010, 11:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht I find these young musicians to be kinda boring. Sorry, but I do. Sure, they can sight-read and play over any progression, but they just seem robotic and completely unfeeling.
I had the misfortune to have to deal with one of these guys in my church band and although he was a great player, he didn't really have a feel for the music at all beyond a technical view. | I'm the complete opposite. I can't read music... hell I don't even know the notes on the fretboard.   |
06-10-2010, 11:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Largo, Florida, USA | | No shame in that! I LOVE IT when I hear\see players in their teens that play well! Gives me hope for the future of live music\musicians! 
The bass player in my HS Jazz Band (circa 1989)was freakin very great too! Plus he played sax very well in the marching band!
As they say, the only person you need to measure yourself against is yourself!
YMMV.
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06-10-2010, 11:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: England, Derbyshire | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht I find these young musicians to be kinda boring. | Very nice generalisation there, I tip my hat to you sir. |
06-10-2010, 11:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NY, NY | | | Its church music, how hard could it be?
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06-10-2010, 11:53 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Largo, Florida, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht I find these young musicians to be kinda boring. Sorry, but I do. Sure, they can sight-read and play over any progression, but they just seem robotic and completely unfeeling.
I had the misfortune to have to deal with one of these guys in my church band and although he was a great player, he didn't really have a feel for the music at all beyond a technical view. | Yes, but at least they are ACTUALLY PLAYING AN INSTRUMENT and have many years ahead of them to grow and learn and gain experience.
I started playing music (keys) when I was 15. I'm 39 now and am always learning something in every way, be it technical, feel, gigging, recording, band relations, etc....
Give the kid a break.
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06-10-2010, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GeneralElectric Its church music, how hard could it be? | Depends. Honky church music or the good kind? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izAJIt1hRuY
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06-10-2010, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GeneralElectric Its church music, how hard could it be? |  |
06-10-2010, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht I find these young musicians to be kinda boring. Sorry, but I do. Sure, they can sight-read and play over any progression, but they just seem robotic and completely unfeeling. | Yes Fassa, Unfortunately I formally was one of these (Jazz band), but still played alot outside of Jazz, now I play no jazz at all, that and my reading is a bit foggy. |
06-10-2010, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertPaulson | do they still promote this in 2010...??? |
06-10-2010, 12:21 PM
|  | Hammer On! | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Babbling Brook | | I think I've heard of that young bass player. His parents painted a fretboard above his crib-shortly after his birth, and started him on a 1/4 size bass when he was 2.5 years old.
It's as if he was born with it. 
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06-10-2010, 12:33 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Iowa | | | I have a high school student who is an amazing bassist. Very creative, composes, can slap like crazy, does Victor Wooten-like tapping solos- for some reason he still wants lessons with me. I actually learn a lot from teaching this student and find it inspiring to work with him. |
06-10-2010, 12:37 PM
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06-10-2010, 12:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: dayton Ohio | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht I find these young musicians to be kinda boring. Sorry, but I do. Sure, they can sight-read and play over any progression, but they just seem robotic and completely unfeeling.
I had the misfortune to have to deal with one of these guys in my church band and although he was a great player, he didn't really have a feel for the music at all beyond a technical view. | It seems to me (and this is a generalization but it seems to roughly be right), that they're are two types.
1. Those who just start jamming and really get a feel and only start learning theory after that.
2. Those who study theory and learn how to play but lack the feel.
You either you learn the other or you don't.
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06-10-2010, 02:34 PM
|  | The older I get, the better I was. | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pasadena, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht I find these young musicians to be kinda boring. Sorry, but I do. Sure, they can sight-read and play over any progression, but they just seem robotic and completely unfeeling.
I had the misfortune to have to deal with one of these guys in my church band and although he was a great player, he didn't really have a feel for the music at all beyond a technical view. | I can easily forgive a lack of emotion in a young musician. Improving technical skills at a young age will provide him/her a solid foundation and lots of tools for self-expression as they find their own voice further down the road.
There is an 8th-grader in my daughters' school that always blows me away with his talents. In this week's school variety show, he played guitar, drums, and sax (I've also seen him play bass pretty well). Plus, he sang and danced with the best in the class. |
06-10-2010, 02:47 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | | Related anecdote--I used to teach snowboarding, and, like teaching anything else, you certainly can't teach if you're not good at it.
I remember quite vividly riding with a group of kids, all of whom were 5-10 years younger than I was (either 16 or 17 at the time). One kid, at the ripe age of seven, was spinning 720's in the park... And they weren't half assed at all-his motions were really clean, his form was perfect, etc. He had better park technique at seven than I probably ever will.
And it doesn't matter. As long as you're having fun with whatever you're doing, skill level is unimportant. |
06-10-2010, 02:56 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Covina (LA), SoCal | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht I find these young musicians to be kinda boring. Sorry, but I do. Sure, they can sight-read and play over any progression, but they just seem robotic and completely unfeeling.
I had the misfortune to have to deal with one of these guys in my church band and although he was a great player, he didn't really have a feel for the music at all beyond a technical view. | How do you know the kids the OP is talking about are this way? Did you see them yourself? Do you really need to put down kids playing to make yourself feel better?
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06-10-2010, 02:58 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Providence, RI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by CBgaragebassist | If this was how church was around here, I'd go every Sunday. And it would look something like this--
(1:52 in) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1KZK...eature=related
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