I Must Be Getting Old

[chrispunx]

i like how most of you were saying "theres no theory!" "no song structure!" or the likes....if you haven't get the picture...there isn't supposed to be any theory. noise is more then likely what they were going for. yes all were hitting the same notes at the same time.

[F-Clef-Jef]

It didn't pass my "I can whistle along" test.

Although, this is hilarious to me...

Ya, I'm old, (and so are my teenage kids).

[plankspanker13]

Originally Posted by F-Clef-Jef

It didn't pass my "I can whistle along" test.

Although, this is hilarious to me...

Ya, I'm old, (and so are my teenage kids).

OMG! Dressed diva, and belting out cookie Monster! Too funny!

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by chrispunx

i like how most of you were saying "theres no theory!" "no song structure!" or the likes....if you haven't get the picture...there isn't supposed to be any theory. noise is more then likely what they were going for. yes all were hitting the same notes at the same time.

Actually, probably some theory, but very intentionally harsh sounding, much like some composers of the early 20th century.

[Duckwater]

I understand why it appeals to some people, but I am attracted to music that brings something intellectual or creative to the table. A lot of the Post-Rock bands I listen to will have passages of noise and harshness to create an emotional atmosphere contrasting the often soothing, melodic, or grooving parts that make up most of the composition.

[socialleper]

You're not old and this isn't new. It's hipsters trying to do grindcore. Napalm Death and Misery Index were going this in the late 80s. Only without nut-hugger shorts, Toms shoes, polo-shirts or chicks.

[john_martin_sai]

That's more of a primitive bonding ritual than anything connected to music.

[RS66LB]

[quote=wabbit;13650449]Yes but it's noise with conviction.

lol -perfectly said

[mrbell321]

I've seen this refered to as "hardcore" in several posts... when did hardcore stop being (I'm about to date myself) Black Flag, H20, and Dead Kennedy's and start being the sound my garbage disposal makes when I jam too much in there?
I've been to many punk(hardcore and others) shows in my life and even the worst was better than that... They all had anger and agression, but also a rhythm and something akin to melody.
Hell, as a semi-protest, I gave a school report by borrowing a guitar and pounding out a single powerchord for 2 minutes and yelled some stupid lyrics over it and it sounded better than that.
I think. Maybe not....
In any case, it sounded better to me. Now get off my lawn!

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by john_martin_sai

That's more of a primitive bonding ritual than anything connected to music.

All music is a primitive bonding ritual.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by bassboysam

All music is a primitive bonding ritual.

+1

[Bloodhammer]

Originally Posted by F-Clef-Jef

It didn't pass my "I can whistle along" test.

Although, this is hilarious to me...

Ya, I'm old, (and so are my teenage kids).

I'm in love!!!

EDIT: Yes, I'm aware of Angela Gossow of Arch Enemy - before all of you AE fanboys start reminding me she fronts that band.

[dozicusmaximus]

This "music" is in no way related to Jaco (besides the jazz bass) or James Jamerson... I bet the bass player isn't even using Flats.
Turn it off. My extensive knowledge of how music works through theory proves this isn't music.

And why is there more people enjoying themselves at this gig, than my cover bands gigs? I bet these people haven't even heard the material they are listening to 800,000 times. It doesn't make any sense.

I have a feeling they aren't getting paid much for this gig if any. What's the point in that? Everything is about money, right?

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus

This "music" is in no way related to Jaco (besides the jazz bass) or James Jamerson... I bet the bass player isn't even using Flats.
Turn it off. My extensive knowledge of how music works through theory proves this isn't music.

And why is there more people enjoying themselves at this gig, than my cover bands gigs? I bet these people haven't even heard the material they are listening to 800,000 times. It doesn't make any sense.

I have a feeling they aren't getting paid much for this gig if any. What's the point in that? Everything is about money, right?

LMAO!

[chrispunx]

Originally Posted by mrbell321

I've seen this refered to as "hardcore" in several posts... when did hardcore stop being (I'm about to date myself) Black Flag, H20, and Dead Kennedy's and start being the sound my garbage disposal makes when I jam too much in there?
I've been to many punk(hardcore and others) shows in my life and even the worst was better than that... They all had anger and agression, but also a rhythm and something akin to melody.
Hell, as a semi-protest, I gave a school report by borrowing a guitar and pounding out a single powerchord for 2 minutes and yelled some stupid lyrics over it and it sounded better than that.
I think. Maybe not....
In any case, it sounded better to me. Now get off my lawn!

it started sounding that way when it started evolving. now i'm not saying this part of its evolution is for everyone...clearly by most every ones hate on it, but as a person of knowledge of hardcore i'm sure you can tell the difference between the first wave of hardcore and the second, i.e., agnostic front(1st wave NYHC) vs. sick of it all(2nd wave NYHC), or black flag(1st wave) vs. H2O(1st wave revival) know with that said, whatever offshoot of hardcore this is, it still shares similar roots. you can hear it in the slow parts or the "grove parts" for some of you. now i dig this. if they came through my neck of the woods i'd be down to see them.

[pklima]

Originally Posted by mrbell321

I've seen this refered to as "hardcore" in several posts... when did hardcore stop being (I'm about to date myself) Black Flag, H20, and Dead Kennedy's

These days hardcore sounds like metal, though people who are into metal hate it because it's made by people who wash their hair and wear band shirts that look more like streetwear brands than what like band shirts are supposed to!

[Sartori]

I don't hate hardcore. It's just not my thing. Not big into death metal or grindcore, either.

I just don't care for the "I don't like it... therefore it's not music!" crap that gets thrown around.

[Stormer]

Damn....why did i waste so many years learning music theory and how to play instruments when i could have just strapped on a bass and hit it with a shoe and invent a new genre !!!!

But seriously, these "bands" pop up all the time and there is always a different genre, death metal, grindcore, power violence, etc......
and the fans of these sub genres are the new gestapo. Honestly, next time you happen to be speaking to some of these guys, offer some constructive criticism or better still, try talking about a completely style of music. Bags of fun.

[john_martin_sai]

Originally Posted by bassboysam

All music is a primitive bonding ritual.

I see the development of 'Rock' music as an evolving art, not something relegated to rituals.....this is an example of devolving. Nothing noteworthy is being displayed there except aggression.

I would consider this as rising to the level of art if they were the first to look, sound, and put on a show like this,....but as it is,...they're just a cheap imitation. Which is perfectly fine for some people.

[Clef_de_fa]

After reading a big part of that tread I think most people in the mainstream world can't stand complexity nor anything that go outside of musical consonance. You can't go outside of Major or minor and a little of diminish but this is about it. the simpler the better.

Check that out ... in 79, kids who listened to Sesame Street listened to some wicked music from Philip Glass ... now ... kids listen to stupid music with at max 3 happy chords in a very obvious beat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch-R1aIM-C0