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Old 07-03-2011, 10:31 PM
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Well my little sister got dumped by her boyfriend. This is a part of life.

However, what's not acceptable is he threw her out with no warning. She's staying with a friend right now while she hunts for an apartment, but we're (me, her, and her friend) are going to his place to pick up her stuff.

Here's the grey area. Her ex is a bassist and she gave him a squire J-bass for his birthday. She want's to get it back, she's not interested in it but she says if he gets it she'll give it to me.

Now I'm cool with accepting the bass, buuut I want to make sure that I'm not going to get in trouble for taking it.

What would you guys do about this?

Side note: Normally I tend to stay out of situations like this, but she is family so I'm making the exception.
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:37 PM
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I'm not so sure she can take back something she gave him.
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:39 PM
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See if sis has the sales slip for the bass. Assuming that this was a recent gift, take it with you and get the bass. If the cops get involved, the person with the sales slip wins, you can just say it is hers.
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I'm not so sure she can take back something she gave him.
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That's my thought on the matter. No matter what she or you think of her ex it was a present after all. Not hers anymore.
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Unfortunately another part of life is that relationships are unpredictable, your sister and her dumping boyfriend could patch things up just as suddenly, and you're the xxxx holding his bass.

Let's say they don't get back together, no matter how unfairly she's been treated, taking something back that was a gift is probably not cool.

Regardless, if it were me, having the bass around would be bad juju, and a constant reminder it was never truly mine. If she must take it back, I would advise her to sell it and be done with it.

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Old 07-03-2011, 11:03 PM
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Unfortunately another part of life is that relationships are unpredictable, your sister and her dumping boyfriend could patch things up just as suddenly, and you're the xxxx holding his bass.

Let's say they don't get back together, no matter how unfairly she's been treated, taking something back that was a gift is probably not cool.

Regardless, if it were me, having the bass around would be bad juju, and a constant reminder it was never truly mine. If she must take it back, I would advise her to sell it and be done with it.

Free advice, it's worth what you paid for it

Very good point.

Need to look past he whole "free gear, alright" aspect and look more at why it's free.
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:21 PM
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Well my little sister got dumped by her boyfriend. This is a part of life.

However, what's not acceptable is he threw her out with no warning. She's staying with a friend right now while she hunts for an apartment, but we're (me, her, and her friend) are going to his place to pick up her stuff.

Here's the grey area. Her ex is a bassist and she gave him a squire J-bass for his birthday. She want's to get it back, she's not interested in it but she says if he gets it she'll give it to me.

Now I'm cool with accepting the bass, buuut I want to make sure that I'm not going to get in trouble for taking it.

What would you guys do about this?

Side note: Normally I tend to stay out of situations like this, but she is family so I'm making the exception.
She bought it with her own money so there for it legally belongs to her. I think all the lawyers and judges would agree with my statement. She did buy it with her own money right? If her ex is your friend then it create a moral, trust, and friendship issue, but the fact that your friend went out with your sister would be a bigger problem because he would have broke Bro rule #1.

Bro rule #1 states that none your friends can go out with your any of your ex girl friends or family without your permission.

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Old 07-03-2011, 11:28 PM
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I'm not so sure she can take back something she gave him.
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I've seen enough Judge Judy re-runs to know you can't ungift something just because the relationship broke down later on.
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:32 PM
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She bought it with her own money so there for it legally belongs to her. I think all the lawyers and judges would agree with my statement. She did buy it with her own money right?
If I buy a car, then donate my car to Goodwill ten years later, can I sue Goodwill and get my car back?
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:33 PM
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If it really was a Bday gift it stays with him.
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If I buy a car, then donate my car to Goodwill ten years later, can I sue Goodwill and get my car back?
Not a good example since you sign the car over to Goodwill upon donation.
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She bought it with her own money so there for it legally belongs to her.
It really doesn't work like that. Upon giving it as a gift, she transferred ownership of the bass. It may be difficult to prove. However, if anyone was witness to the gift giving or if she told anyone that she had given the gift, there will be witnesses to his cause.

As was previously said, having that bass in your possession would possibly put you in an uncomfortable situation later on and introduce bad juju into your practice area. Hell, if the ex got the authorities involved, you'd possibly be guilty of theft and receiving stolen property. If your sister takes off with it, don't be the one that carries it out of the house and definitely don't allow her to give it to you. Hell, I wouldn't even want to be witness to her taking it out of his place. Is the value of the bass worth potentially having legal action taken against you?

Leave the bass with her ex. That takes the complication out of the whole thing. If your sister ever dates a douchebag again, remind her not to buy expensive gifts for them.

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Old 07-03-2011, 11:57 PM
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She bought it with her own money so there for it legally belongs to her. I think all the lawyers and judges would agree with my statement.
Yeah, I'm sure YOU think all lawyers and judges would agree with your statement; I'm also sure you're unanimous in that opinion. Anyone else with half a brain in their head rolled their eyes as soon as they read your brilliant legal summation of the situation.
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She can ask for it back, that's all.
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However, if anyone was witness to the gift giving or if she told anyone that she had given the gift...
...or if he, his lawyers, or his friends access TB its now there in print for all and sundry to read as well...
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Old 07-04-2011, 12:37 AM
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Old 07-04-2011, 12:45 AM
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Not a good example since you sign the car over to Goodwill upon donation.
I'm just trying to say that once you give somebody something, it's not yours anymore. My parents are old and watch court shows all the time. Court shows are like porn for old people. I have seen a countless number of times where someone tries to get an expensive gift back because of a relationship that went wrong.
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Old 07-04-2011, 12:53 AM
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Not a good example since you sign the car over to Goodwill upon donation.
I'm just trying to say that once you give somebody something, it's not yours anymore. My parents are old and watch court shows all the time. Court shows are like porn for old people. I have seen a countless number of times where someone tries to get an expensive gift back because of a relationship that went wrong.
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:38 AM
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She bought it with her own money so there for it legally belongs to her. I think all the lawyers and judges would agree with my statement. She did buy it with her own money right? If her ex is your friend then it create a moral, trust, and friendship issue, but the fact that your friend went out with your sister would be a bigger problem because he would have broke Bro rule #1.

Bro rule #1 states that none your friends can go out with your any of your ex girl friends or family without your permission.

Obey the first Bro rule and nobody will get burned in any way, shape or form.
If she gave it to him as a gift, he owns it from that point on. I think all the lawyers and judges would agree with my statement.
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