Looks vs. Talent

[DownCaster]

Mega...what is your problem? I understand you dont like Korn...but i have just as much a right to like a band as you do for not liking them. I agree with you about the new stuff...i think it is pretty damn boring...but i think their old stuff was great. They hide behind effects cuz that is the type of music they play. head and munky are both great players...they use the effects to accent their sound. I would like to get a few effects...does that make me any less of a bass player?? No...it just says that i am looking for a new sounds. I would respect if you would back off all the Korn bashing...and get out of my face over me liking the damn band.

p.s. I would like to thank you for giving me a reason to change my Signature...

[Jennifer]

I'm glad I don't have cable.

[Boplicity]

Looks can carry you far, but only SO far. Take for example, John Such who played on several of Bon Jovi's first albums...well maybe not several. At least he toured with the band, because he had the look and stage presence. However, toward the end of his tenure, the band grew weary of his deficiencies (whatever they were) and were rumored to be using another bassist (their present one in fact) play the basslines on the albums. Finally the band left Such go. Their new bassist does not have the glam metal look in any way, shape or form, but I guess he is a darned good bass player, so he has the live concert tour and recording gig now.


Jason Oldsted

[Gard]

Actually, Hugh McDonald (I think that's his name...) played on almost all of the Anchovy...er....John Blome....uh...I mean Bon Jovi stuff . I know for a fact that he was eventually credited with the one cool bassline I know of theirs: "Living On A Prayer".

Apparantly the ONLY reason Such was in the band was that he had the right "look". He hated the studio, didn't have the patience and concentration for take after take (not to mention that apparantly he was unable to actually get a good take...maybe that was why he didn't care for it ). They tolerated his inability to pull stuff off live because of his appearance and stage presence, but eventually his piss-poor playing wore on the band enough that they let him go, and hired the "real" Bon Jovi bassist. It's good to see true talent and ability winning out over looks, even though it took more than a decade for it to happen in this instance .

[Deynn]

Originally posted by Jennifer
I'm glad I don't have cable.

But you're missing all those music/fashion shows!

[Willie Dizon]

To ED: Maybe you could start another thread " Who knows who Politics." It's not what you know it's who you ....

[sgraham]

I always wondered about the Bon Jovi bassist situation.
It's weird that they finally hired the guy that had been
playing on the records all along. I saw a picture of
Hugh McDonald in BP and I thought he looked pretty cool. Hell, cooler than A.J. Such....

[Dave Siff]

Check out Bryan Beller's column in the October BP for a humorous take on this topic.

[Sheep Man]

I always remember useless, random pieces of trivia while I SHOULD be doing my homework, and now is one of those times.
Anyway, when I first 'joined' the band I'm currently in, the lead guitarist (well, it was forced upon her...I already mentioned that before though, right?) said I didn't quite look right, because normally the bassist in the band is the 'chunkiest' guy. At the time I was about 5'4" or 5'5" and weighed in at about 110 lbs. Now I'm about 5'6" and weigh in at about 120 lbs. Oh well.

[Willie Dizon]

I saw Bon Jovi when they opened up for the Scorpions.I didn't like them then and I don't care for them now,sorry.Even though the Scorps kicked butt,there were alot of teeny boppers in the crowd wearing Bon Jovi t-shirts.It goes to show,it's just a matter of taste or the lack there of.Can't please everybody!!I don't mean to diss anyone I'm just being honest.

[CamMcIntyre]

Originally posted by Sheep Man
I always remember useless, random pieces of trivia while I SHOULD be doing my homework, and now is one of those times.
Anyway, when I first 'joined' the band I'm currently in, the lead guitarist (well, it was forced upon her...I already mentioned that before though, right?) said I didn't quite look right, because normally the bassist in the band is the 'chunkiest' guy. At the time I was about 5'4" or 5'5" and weighed in at about 110 lbs. Now I'm about 5'6" and weigh in at about 120 lbs. Oh well.

I think part of the reason why the bassist is thought of that way since we're not usually as self-involved as our lead guitarist counter parts or rivals which ever the case maybe ,butI guess i fit the stereotypical bass player figure type thing i'm 5'10'' 155lbs not fat but not thin & i have decent-good muscle tone all-around. thats all

[Sheep Man]

I guess i fit the stereotypical bass player figure type thing i'm 5'10'' 155lbs not fat but not thin & i have decent-good muscle tone all-around. thats all [/b]

Ah...but that's where I'm different. Not much muscle in me. It only sorta looks that way because there's also just about no fat in me.

[gruffpuppy]

i remember this one gig i had, i thought we were wailing, i wiped the sweat from my brow, jumped from the stage, gave mom a hug, and she said "boy you sweat a lot", "don't you know any good songs", "why does that thing have 4 strings? i only saw you touch 2"

[Munjibunga]

I just want to know one thing: How do you explain Ringo Starr? Uglier than dirt, no talent ... sheesh. It introduces a third crucial factor previously not considered. Dumb luck.

[Willie Dizon]

To Munjibunga: Have you ever checked out getsigned.com? The writer talked about EIGHT reasons why a band is not signed.One of those reasons listed was luck. Location, IMAGE,drive and other factors were mentioned. I don't know what the Beatles saw in Ringo,but somehow it was what they were LOOKING for.Go figure,beats the hell out of me!!

[pkeeg]

Speaking of image and in my case age I've been looking for a new band for months now. I'm 42 years old and I like to play Big , Loud and Heavy (I saw Black Sabbath In 1973 and Black Sabbath f**ked my life up) so not many guitarists don't ask how old I am.
One guy said "nar! your to old, it's an attitude thing" so I said to him "well I was in the Pantera mosh pit where the hell were you?!!" refering to their gig here in Sydney Australia a few years back. His answer "I couldn't go, I was to young" Well I pissed myself laughing.
The moral of the story- If someone has a problem with my age or image, laugh- it's their problem not mine and I don't need problems in my band.

[Willie Dizon]

To pkeeg: Good for you!!! There's too much image crap that gets in the way of enjoying music!!!