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11-30-2012, 12:28 PM
| | | | Mediocrity-the great humbler Quickly: Our lead guitarist and vocalist is injured. I had to find a sub as not to cancel a gig. I hired a solo/singer songwriter type who actually plays mostly covers, alone on stage. We practiced two times, and I took notes. Well, on stage we played "okay" and even had some "moments". However, we were off at times, and he would play songs that we hadn't practiced. So, I had to "use my ears", watch his hands, and BS my way through songs. People and the venue owner were okay with it. I am very particular, and I am lucky enough to play with some tight bands. It has been a long time since I had to fly without a net, and not in a "jazz" way.
Question: Has anyone had the low self-steem moment of not being part of a "perfect" performance. Did you beat yourself up, or can you move on? I replay the moments for days afterwards, even though people say, "you guys sounded good!" | 
11-30-2012, 12:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego | | | Sometimes I've stewed about it, but then again that performance was "back there" and I can't do anything about it other than learn from it and move on.
Of course I try to maintain that same viewpoint during the gig. "Okay I f'd up that last change.... here comes another one... 2 - 3 .... NAILED IT!" and keep rolling.
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11-30-2012, 12:47 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | Yup in fact last Saturday's gig was exactly as you describe - felt good until last 2 songs when I felt that the wheels fell off. Of course the crowd thought everything was great and actually told us it was the best we've ever played. Never ceases to amaze what we hear versus the audience.
I used to beat myself up about this but now chalk it up to experience hope we actually do get better.
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11-30-2012, 12:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Everett Wa | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ToP fan Never ceases to amaze what we hear versus the audience. | This says it all. Our "worst" shows always seem to get the most compliments.
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11-30-2012, 01:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida | | | A front starts playing songs not rehearsed as a band and I get PO'd really really fast. The very few times that has happened to me I just set my bass in the stand and go order a beer. After they are done with their "solo" tune I return to the stage. That usually puts a stop to going off the approved set list.
No gig is perfect but good is always better than mediocre. Once the show is over you can't undo it, but you can always (individually or collectively) work on the rough spots so the next show is better. Beating yourself or band mates up for a so-so show won't fix anything.
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11-30-2012, 01:11 PM
|  | Progressive Rock Bassist | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chicago, IL | | | Yeah - we were doing a gig at a large club and when it came time for the bass solo all of a sudden my hand cramped so badly I stumbled around like a drunk down the stairs. I felt HORRIBLE the rest of the gig, and it still bothers me sometimes. It's made me practice that solo almost daily since then (it's been a year), but I still have trouble with it. Oh well.
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11-30-2012, 01:17 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, NC USA | | | I do fill-in gigs all the time. What you described is a way of life for me! Ha! But I really really enjoy those shows. It's actually refreshing after years of playing perfectly polished music that I had so memorized I could concentrate more on the girl in the short skirt than on my bass and still be OK. Boring! It's nice to get my adrenaline up and have to focus to get the job done. It's rewarding with a few bumps. It's magical on nights when the band is hot and tight even though I just met them a couple of hours ago! Those are good nights!
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11-30-2012, 01:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Colorado | | The nice thing about "clams" on live gigs is that they're over in a NY minute.......unless it's been recorded. Then you have to listen to it forever. So like the live gig, erase the recording and move on. No matter how good and how tight you are the next screw up is just around the corner. 
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12-03-2012, 09:02 PM
|  | Owner of the GK Angry Bird amp | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Olympia, WA | | | Our singer never likes to listen to or watch any recordings, i listen to all but the very worst ones because even though we may have messed up i still had fun and i still feel like a rock star.
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12-04-2012, 06:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cayce, SC | | | In the past I beat myself up more about messed up playing than I do nowadays. Not that I don't care, but just that I don't wanna feel bad anymore. That is, I'm 62, and it's my goal in life from here on to feel good and enjoy it while I can. Who knows what will happen in the next minute? I might be dead. So, unnecessary trouble and sobbing can get out of my way.
The best thing is, I am now out of bands who are anal. Nowadays, in any one of my three bands, when someone messes up we look at each other and laugh. If it can't be that way then I don't wanna play anymore.
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12-04-2012, 09:12 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SW Florida | | It can really suck to be part of a musical train wreck. Honestly I think I've been involved in so many in my playing history that the embarrassment quickly fades at this point.  . Play on!! | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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