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Old 10-12-2007, 05:51 PM
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So I did a sound engineering gig last night. Not a huge venue bar/pub sized. Three sets, about four hours work. I also do all the backing tracks for this particular band since they don't have a drummer or keyboardist. The situation is that during the gig I sit at the side of the stage and walk out to check front of house. Once I get the levels it's mostly set and forget except that I run the backing tracks and sometimes ride the faders on guitar solos and vocals when the two girls trade lead and backing vocals. Anyway I am pretty visable where I am. Most of the security guys at this venue know me since I have been doing this as a regular gig for about 6 months and they have several working at one time.

Last night there was a casual guy employed. So at the end of the gig I was about to leave and give the guitarist a lift home, so we took all of her stuff out to my car. Anyway she went back inside and didn't come back for some time, so I thought I had better go in and see what she was doing. As I went to go back into the venue I hear this voice say "no entry mate".
I looked at this guy with a kind of strange look. I though he must be joking but I said "pardon?"
He said "No entry, the bar is closed"
I just looked at him and said, "Yeah I'm not here to drink, I am the sound engineer."
He said "Sound engineer?"
"With the band" I said
"What band?" he said

At this point I had a few unpleasent words to say and walked past him anyway since I knew all the other security guys inside and the manager. As I did I told him he had better go and talk to his boss if he had a problem. I went in and got the guitarist and on my way out this guy still wanted to have words with me. I just told him to go take it up with his boss. The other security guards had been alerted by this stage and were most appologetic to me. I just don't get how you can have someone basically work in front of you all night and then tell them they can't go back into the venue as a course of their work.

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Old 10-12-2007, 06:31 PM
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At one of the venues we play frequently, we perform outdoors on the patio from 6:00 - 10:00, after which, noise ordinances require outdoor entertainment to stop. After 10:00, the entertainment changes to a DJ indoors - with a cover charge.

At our last gig, after we finished loading out the keyboard player went to use the head, and was stopped by the guard at the door (who'd been there throughout our gig), who told him he'd have to pay the cover to enter, even if it was to use the head. He stood there, flabbergasted, doing the gotta-go dance, until we could talk to the venue manager!
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:15 AM
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some security guys really are daft.
i remember at a local venue here bands taking some of their gear out to cars after the 3 am lockdown, then not being let back in to get the rest of their stuff. resulting in members who were inside having to take stuff to the door and pass it out to those waiting outside.
amazingly stupid door guy.
i wasnt playing that night, fortunately for me i dont have many bad tales of security guys. except the various times ive been ejected from clubs.
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I had a security lady try to stop me from getting back in after closing not so long ago...took some explaining to get my gear...wonder if Kiss ever had that problem??
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As I went to go back into the venue I hear this voice say "no entry mate".
I looked at this guy with a kind of strange look. I though he must be joking but I said "pardon?"
He said "No entry, the bar is closed"
I just looked at him and said, "Yeah I'm not here to drink, I am the sound engineer."
He said "Sound engineer?"
"With the band" I said
"What band?" he said
Thank goodness there are security jobs for these people to take. Otherwise, they'd be practicing brain surgery and nuclear engineering, and then where would we be?...

This kind of reminds me of the scene from Monty Python and The Holy Grail:

FATHER: Guards! Make sure
the Prince doesn't leave this room until I come and get 'im.
GUARD #1: Not to leave the room even if you come and get him.
GUARD #2: Hic!
FATHER: No, no. Until I come and get 'im.
GUARD #1: Until you come and get him, we're not to enter the room.
FATHER: No, no, no. You stay in the room and make sure 'e doesn't
leave.
GUARD #1: And you'll come and get him.
GUARD #2: Hic!
FATHER: Right.
GUARD #1: We don't need to do anything, apart from just stop him
entering the room.
FATHER: No, no. Leaving the room.
GUARD #1: Leaving the room, yes.
FATHER: All right?
GUARD #1: Right. Oh, if-if-if, uh, if-if-if, uh, if-if-if we...
FATHER: Yes, what is it?
GUARD #1: Oh, if-if, oh--
FATHER: Look, it's quite simple.
GUARD #1: Uh...
FATHER: You just stay here, and make sure 'e doesn't leave the room.
All right?
GUARD #2: Hic!
FATHER: Right.
GUARD #1: Oh, I remember. Uh, can he leave the room with us?
FATHER: N- No no no. You just keep him in here, and make sure--
GUARD #1: Oh, yes, we'll keep him in here, obviously. But if he had
to leave and we were--
FATHER: No, no, just keep him in here--
GUARD #1: Until you, or anyone else,--
FATHER: No, not anyone else, just me--
GUARD #1: Just you.
GUARD #2: Hic!
FATHER: Get back.
GUARD #1: Get back.
FATHER: Right?
GUARD #1: Right, we'll stay here until you get back.
FATHER: And, uh, make sure he doesn't leave.
GUARD #1: What?
FATHER: Make sure 'e doesn't leave.
GUARD #1: The Prince?
FATHER: Yes, make sure 'e doesn't leave.
GUARD #1: Oh, yes, of course. I thought you meant him. Y'know, it
seemed a bit daft, me havin' to guard him when he's a guard.
FATHER: Is that clear?
GUARD #2: Hic!
GUARD #1: Oh, quite clear, no problems.
FATHER: Right.
[starts to leave]
Where are you going?
GUARD #1: We're coming with you.
FATHER: No no, I want you to stay 'ere and make sure 'e doesn't leave.
GUARD #1: Oh, I see. Right.
HERBERT: But, Father!
FATHER: Shut your noise, you! And get that suit on! And no singing!
GUARD #2: Hic!
FATHER: Oh, go get a glass of water.

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