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02-12-2013, 12:50 PM
| | | | So, You Wanna Be a 'Pro' Bassist? Check list
In order to qualify as a "Seasoned Musician"
You have to have:
1) Played to an empty room
2) Been stiffed for your money at least twice
3) Arrived at a gig and been told, "sorry, we double booked"
4) Played a wrong genre gig i.e, metal band at a jazz club, country band at an R&B club
5) Repeatedly waited a minimum of 2 hours past your start time to play
6) Gone to an audition for a "professional band" with "professional" members and find out its rank amateurs playing bad covers
7) While playing, someone spills something on you/your bass/your amp, falls into you, throws something at you, yells obscenities or wants to kick your ass for no apparent reason.
8) Played your personal worst performance ever yet been told by at least 2 people you were amazing
9) Stayed in a mediocre cover/tribute/original band for at least 1 year and played only 1 gig with them....and it was bad
10) Lastly and most sadly, you have to have had at least one instrument or gear stolen
Once you've completed the above check list you may officially refer to yourself as a 'Seasoned Musician'  | 
02-12-2013, 12:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain | | poor Jaguar  | 
02-12-2013, 01:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Edmonton canada | | | 1) Opening for a touring act just the keys/vocalist, we are full cover band; nobody there but her parents. She played then we closed.
2) ****** bars…
3) 2nd gig after we released our EP, damn bar owners.
4) Jazz/funk band in a metal battle of the bands
5) University reunions (several occasions, different faculties)
6) Auditioned for a Mexican surf band
7) Not yet
8) Swing dance, hadn’t slept in 2 days (literally, I was surviving on a redbull every 4 hours) was told my playing was very relaxed
9) Did that , then we got our **** together now it’s good
10) P-bass special while in college. | 
02-12-2013, 01:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tmntfan 8) Swing dance, hadn’t slept in 2 days (literally, I was surviving on a redbull every 4 hours) was told my playing was very relaxed | I bet you were counting sheeps jumping over your bass neck!  | 
02-12-2013, 02:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC | | | 1) Too many to count. Back in the 80's, playing 6 night a week, Mondays - Wednesdays were brutal.
2) Stiffed lots. Once the band was fired after 20 minute on a Monday night (yet the crowd LOVED us) On the road in the middle of nowhere with a blown tire and no spare, and no money to get it fixed. Found out the reason we were fired was because he was going to weekends only the following week.
3) Happened regularly on the road in the 80's. Only got rough a few times.
4) Hard rock band booked in a country bar. Spent the afternoon in the hotel room learning country songs to play that night. Made it through the week, but it was pretty intense.
5) Played after Doug & The Slugs who were doing a "dinner show". They were supposed to start at 8, didn't get on until 11. We were supposed to start at 10:30 and play 'til 2. Wound up doing a 1/2 hour set to finish the night.
6) Again, too many to count.
7) Yep. Was on stage when some goof jumps on stage and starts screaming into my mic. He stumbles, falls off the stage, thinks I pushed him. He starts trying to hit my with my own mic stand. I yell for the bouncer who shrugs his shoulders and refuses to do anything. Found out drunk idiot was the town drug dealer. I actually had to apologise and buy HIM a beer just to get him to stop.
8) yep. A few times.
9) Before I could tell that there was no hope, yes, I stayed in more than one band way longer than I should have. Now, no gigs no play.
10) Full monitors and PA head out of my truck in the driveway. Got lucky and it was covered under my house insurance. Lots of small stuff... mics, cables, tuners... | 
02-12-2013, 02:09 PM
| | | | What if you have been playing for so long and for so many gigs that you can't remember some of these things happening, even if you know they probably did. For example, I cannot for the life of me come up with a concrete memory of being stiffed. Certainly it would not have been in the past 10 years because it isn't in my records. My records from years previous were lost in a flood.........
Also, I know I have NEVER had a major peice of gear stolen. I am sure cables or maybe a mic stand have be appropriated by other musicians over the years. | 
02-12-2013, 02:11 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cary NC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dtripoli Check list
In order to qualify as a "Seasoned Musician"
You have to have:
1) Played to an empty room
2) Been stiffed for your money at least twice
3) Arrived at a gig and been told, "sorry, we double booked"
4) Played a wrong genre gig i.e, metal band at a jazz club, country band at an R&B club
5) Repeatedly waited a minimum of 2 hours past your start time to play
6) Gone to an audition for a "professional band" with "professional" members and find out its rank amateurs playing bad covers
7) While playing, someone spills something on you/your bass/your amp, falls into you, throws something at you, yells obscenities or wants to kick your ass for no apparent reason.
8) Played your personal worst performance ever yet been told by at least 2 people you were amazing
9) Stayed in a mediocre cover/tribute/original band for at least 1 year and played only 1 gig with them....and it was bad
10) Lastly and most sadly, you have to have had at least one instrument or gear stolen
Once you've completed the above check list you may officially refer to yourself as a 'Seasoned Musician'  | Check times ten! Sweet, I am a pro!! "hyper"
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02-12-2013, 02:14 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Fodera Basses, Aguilar Amplification | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | | It is borderline depressing how accurate the OP is.
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02-12-2013, 02:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Northwestern Kanuckistan | | | I meet all criteria easily except I have never had any gear stolen. I have however lived in a dilapidated bus with six other filthy degenerates for nearly a week and/or shacked up with a random chick to avoid aforementioned bus living.
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02-12-2013, 02:25 PM
| | | | I wanna #!!!!!! Lol sadly have been through all of that and more. | 
02-12-2013, 02:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boulder Suburbia, Colorado | | I'm not "pro" and have experienced all of that.  | 
02-12-2013, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zachoff I'm not "pro" and have experienced all of that.  | ..but you do qualify as "seasoned" | 
02-12-2013, 02:51 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern Michigan | | Apparently,I've been a pro for years!  | 
02-12-2013, 03:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boulder Suburbia, Colorado | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dtripoli ..but you do qualify as "seasoned" | Ha, I guess so! 20+ years will do that to you, I guess. | 
02-12-2013, 03:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX | | | Should you add: "Go on a band tour/road trip in which A) the vehicle breaks down in the middle of nowhere, OR B) a band member almost gets arrested"?
Sadly, both of those have happened to me (it wasn't me that almost got arrested, though), and on the same trip as well. | 
02-12-2013, 03:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cayce, SC | | | Add: playing for a room full of fist-fighting Marines, pushing one back into the foray with my boot, and never missing a lick. Sheez.
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02-12-2013, 03:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Seattle, Washington | | | You forgot:
Played 2 songs only to be shut down because you were too loud. This after telling management that you are a rock band and they saw you schlep amps in to the space. | 
02-12-2013, 04:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Deep in the heart of Texas | | | Well it looks like I've been a pro bassist for years!
..and you can add this to the list:
Showed up on time for load in at a festival gig and had to wait at least two hours to get on stage due to the the previous bands going over their scheduled stagetime.
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02-12-2013, 04:07 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Fender Basses, Ampeg, Curt Mangan Strings | | Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shore, Massachusetts | | | I have been playing for 35 years and the only things on the list I have experienced are 1, 2, 6, 7, and 10.
1) "Played to an empty room." Only happened once, during a snowstorm when the club owner insisted that we play anyway. We played to the doorman, bartender and waitress. Two people actually showed up after our first set. We usually played to about 400 people at this club.
2) "Been stiffed for your money." Oddly enough by two different band leaders, never by a club or promoter.
6) "Gone to an audition for a "professional band" with "professional" members and find out its rank amateurs playing bad covers". Happens quite a bit. Now I won't even consider auditioning until the band sends me some recordings or has a website where I can listen to them.
7) "While playing, someone spills something on you/your bass/your amp, falls into you, throws something at you, yells obscenities or wants to kick your ass for no apparent reason." Happened once when my old band was setting up for our first gig. Some drunk kept yelling "I heard you guys suck". When we started playing he was screaming and pumping his fist in the air. After the first set he came up to me and said "you guys don't suck". When we were getting ready to do our second set he started with the "I heard you guys suck" again. The club manager threw him out.
10) "Lastly and most sadly, you have to have had at least one instrument or gear stolen". Again, oddly enough, by a former band member. Never by anyone else.
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02-12-2013, 04:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Waxahachie, Tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dtripoli Check list
In order to qualify as a "Seasoned Musician"
You have to have:
1) Played to an empty room
2) Been stiffed for your money at least twice
3) Arrived at a gig and been told, "sorry, we double booked"
4) Played a wrong genre gig i.e, metal band at a jazz club, country band at an R&B club
5) Repeatedly waited a minimum of 2 hours past your start time to play
6) Gone to an audition for a "professional band" with "professional" members and find out its rank amateurs playing bad covers
7) While playing, someone spills something on you/your bass/your amp, falls into you, throws something at you, yells obscenities or wants to kick your ass for no apparent reason.
8) Played your personal worst performance ever yet been told by at least 2 people you were amazing
9) Stayed in a mediocre cover/tribute/original band for at least 1 year and played only 1 gig with them....and it was bad
10) Lastly and most sadly, you have to have had at least one instrument or gear stolen
Once you've completed the above check list you may officially refer to yourself as a 'Seasoned Musician' | All but 9. I wouldn't hang around that long if the goal was to gig. But on tours, I've played to many empty rooms. Been stiffed for money several times, once at gunpoint. Double booked, check. Walked into a honky tonk in Waco to play once, we played Funk Rock. Hurry up and wait is the name of the game, especially on tour. Plenty of #7's. Almost had it set on fire once on stage. 8 is a given. 10, stole my car with my whole amp in it. Luckily carried my bass in with me. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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