Sound war

beelzelboss · #1 09-05-2009, 10:30 PM

With the brother tonight. We were playing a few songs, and after awhile he keeps turning up his little 15watt amp. (its surprising louder than I would have expected) I myself have a 100 w ampeg, so after a while I was just like fine. You want to have a sound war?
Turned my stuff wayyyyy up. And totally pwned him.

BASSISTS WIN!

SpamBot · #2 09-05-2009, 10:35 PM

Enjoy it while it lasts. Next thing you know he'll show up with 100w and 2 412s of Marshall.

5string5fingers · #3 09-05-2009, 11:28 PM

Yea don't get used to it.

beelzelboss · #4 09-06-2009, 12:19 AM

yea, but I don't think he will ever get into a band and won't be buying a new bigger amp, the only reason, Parents.

rhythmsection · #5 09-06-2009, 12:51 AM

It is a bit interesting to have a sound war at 15 vs. 100 watts.

I mean, seriously, the drummer wasn't louder than both of you?

INTP · #6 09-06-2009, 09:23 AM

nobody wins the volume wars.

5string5fingers · #7 09-06-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rhythmsection

It is a bit interesting to have a sound war at 15 vs. 100 watts.

I mean, seriously, the drummer wasn't louder than both of you?

I dont think there was a drummer. For a guitarist they'd already have the amp cranked to 11 if they were playing with a drummer.

Joe Gress · #8 09-06-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by INTP

nobody wins the volume wars.

Except manufacturers.

5string5fingers · #9 09-06-2009, 11:15 AM

And unless you're at guitar center

Smurf-o-Deth · #10 09-06-2009, 12:19 PM

But...if you are in Guitar Center, aren't you already winning?

Steveaux · #11 09-06-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by INTP

nobody wins the volume wars.

RBonner does.

Jimmy Bones · #12 09-06-2009, 08:43 PM

I beat you both with my 800 watt Ashdown rig. :P

Alaska Bass · #13 09-06-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by INTP

nobody wins the volume wars.

Actually, the local electrical utility does...

bluesy_92 · #14 09-06-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alaska Bass

Actually, the local electrical utility does...

Gotta agree here....although at 16 I don't pay the electric bill, I can't imagine running my Peavey 2x15 to be "cheap."

David Pinton · #15 09-07-2009, 02:28 AM

One of my guitarists has a Vox AC15, it's 15 watts but it overwhelms my 130w (Peavy TNT 130). When I'm at full volume he only needs to turn it to 3 and he's louder than me. It has to do with loudspeaker efficiency. He's even louder than the other guitarist (100w tube Marshall and 2*12").
I designed a cabinet with my brother (professionnal) and with the frequency response we want, I'll have to use a 400w amp to keep up with the Vox's 15 watts!
Sound war is BAD for your Hearing, I designed the cabinet to be able to play large venues or outside.

cnltb · #16 09-07-2009, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beelzelboss

With the brother tonight. We were playing a few songs, and after awhile he keeps turning up his little 15watt amp. (its surprising louder than I would have expected) I myself have a 100 w ampeg, so after a while I was just like fine. You want to have a sound war?
Turned my stuff wayyyyy up. And totally pwned him.

BASSISTS WIN!

the point being...?

OtterOnBass · #17 09-07-2009, 07:24 PM

In my power trio, the guitarist regularly brings a 5 watt tube amp. It's plenty loud, and distorts at just the right volume. I bring a 175 watt combo. We've never had trouble hearing ourselves inside.

Wyatt · #18 09-07-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by David Pinton

One of my guitarists has a Vox AC15, it's 15 watts but it overwhelms my 130w (Peavy TNT 130). When I'm at full volume he only needs to turn it to 3 and he's louder than me. It has to do with loudspeaker efficiency. He's even louder than the other guitarist (100w tube Marshall and 2*12").
I designed a cabinet with my brother (professionnal) and with the frequency response we want, I'll have to use a 400w amp to keep up with the Vox's 15 watts!
Sound war is BAD for your Hearing, I designed the cabinet to be able to play large venues or outside.

I know we are talking guitards here, but that would have to be discouraging

beelzelboss · #19 09-08-2009, 03:34 PM

My point, just wanted to say. But his little Line6 is pretty loud, but once you get the thing past 4 its just mush sounding.

We are still looking for a drummer, in the mean time we just cover a few songs we both like, but my amp I bought, his little 15w was a hand-me-down, from our older brother who started guitar years earlier than us and left for college.

dave64o · #20 09-09-2009, 02:17 PM

I had a minor volume war with the last guitar player I worked with. He had a 100W Fender Dual Showman through an old Peavey 2x12 cabinet that sounded absolutely *fantastic* when played loud. Only problem was that even at very low volume he completely overwhelmed the GK MB150 I was using at the time - and he loved to do it.

When I finally put together my current set up and brought it to his house for the first time, he laughed at the size of the head (GK 1001-RBII) and the light weight of my 1x12 Dr. Bass cabinets. However, even as he turned up his volume my set up hung in there with him so he inched up the volume, then I did, then he did, then i did, etc.

His son was playing drums for us and we got so loud that even though his son was POUNDING on the drums and you could see the cymbals shaking as he smashed them, you couldn't hear the drums at all. It didn't take long for his son to stop playing and just throw his sticks on the ground because playing was pointless. However, we also stopped playing because we realized the volume was simply ridiculous. We called a truce and from then on his volume level was much more reasonable, he still sounded great, and I think we sounded much better overall.

Like a few people already, there are no winners in a volume war. The band will sound like crap but, more importantly, it doesn't take much to damage your hearing. Why would a musician voluntarily do that to himself?!