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Old 03-02-2012, 03:02 PM
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Several good examples posted here...I'd like to "hear" some more real life examples with the name of the cover song and the fill or lick that people never noticed!
We used to play Mellisa by The Allmans Bros. After a break, my lead player said "Man, you really grooved that song. Not too bad for a song that has a boring bass line." I said..."Have you ever listened to the song?" Granted maybe early versions of the song have a plain bass line, but not with Oteil's playing. And the version we listened to to learn the song was definitely Oteil.

My high school band director actually helped cure me of this. He had a rule that you had to listen, not just read. So in the middle of a song, he would cut us off, then point to someone and ask them what another section was playing. He used the embarrassment factor into forcing us to listen. I loved it when he would call on me (a tuba player) and ask about, say, 1st trumpet, and I would play to him what the 1st trumpet section should be playing, on my tuba. I was waaaaaaay better on tuba than on bass btw. I was just too caught up in "rock and roll" to keep up with it.
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Kudos to the HS band directors. Mine certainly made me a better ensemble player.
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Sadly, at one of our recent rehearsals I turned down my volume to nothing and faked the song. Just to check on the other band member's listening abilities.

Nobody noticed...
I'm reminded of a time I was asked to cover at church, and I did something of the same because the bandleader was complaining that the bass sounded too loud. So I stood faking the song with my amp turned off. He still complained, but got a shock when he found out I'd not actually been doing anything.
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:51 PM
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I'm reminded of a time I was asked to cover at church, and I did something of the same because the bandleader was complaining that the bass sounded too loud. So I stood faking the song with my amp turned off. He still complained, but got a shock when he found out I'd not actually been doing anything.
Complaining about bass volume with the amp off! He certainly made an ass of himself.
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Complaining about bass volume with the amp off! He certainly made an ass of himself.
Given that there was a piano on stage playing at full volume, if I'd been him it would have been the pianist I was whinging at and not the bassist for any rogue bass sound.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:34 AM
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Does anyone else have the problem of having your guitarist come to practice and force you to tune your bass to his guitar? I have this happen repeatedly, despite my tuning my bass before every session and NEVER seeing him use a tuner. I hate playing with this asshat anyways, and I really am trying to stick with the band, but it's wearing thin.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:46 AM
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Does anyone else have the problem of having your guitarist come to practice and force you to tune your bass to his guitar? I have this happen repeatedly, despite my tuning my bass before every session and NEVER seeing him use a tuner. I hate playing with this asshat anyways, and I really am trying to stick with the band, but it's wearing thin.
I'd refuse to play with him until he obtains and uses a tuner. Sounds like a moron to me. An imbecile, perhaps.
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same here

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in a cover band for 6 years and I still get "hey that sounded great" when it was part of the original bass line and i've done it the same way each of the 10,000 times we've played the song. It used to bother me, but now I judge my performance by the # of butts moving in the room and the occasional bass player that comes up and says "hey, sounds great."
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Sorry, dudes, I'm diverging from the topic of the thread, as usual. Please understand, it is my temperament to be distracted and all over the place. I appreciate your leniency.

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Hmmm...well dammit if I'm going to be an ornament, I want to be the pickle. For some reason every tree is supposed to have a pickle
Ha ha ha, a pickle? Why? Have you ever seen the Angry Video Game Nerd? A particular episode will make you see pickles in a whole different light.

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I don't know about that. As a scientist (geologist), I don't contribute very much to society. However, I do have a "pretty face" which makes up for it.
Ha ha ha, that made my day, brother. Well, it seems you are an interesting exception. I GUESS that, usually, scientists do contribute more to society than celebrities and socialites... but I might be wrong.
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Old 03-03-2012, 08:06 PM
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I don't know about that. As a scientist (geologist), I don't contribute very much to society. However, I do have a "pretty face" which makes up for it.
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Ha ha ha, that made my day, brother. Well, it seems you are an interesting exception. I GUESS that, usually, scientists do contribute more to society than celebrities and socialites... but I might be wrong.
Speaking of geologists and their contributions

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Old 03-04-2012, 10:01 PM
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LOL! I got a kick out of that one.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:31 PM
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:37 PM
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That's the very problem with society on this topic, no? People notice "pretty face" celebs and athletes first over scientists or engineers, no matter that scientists/ engineers are contributing far more. In companies, the greedy CEOs are listened over (probably) smarter employees. White collar jobs receive a lot more praise than blue collar jobs.

It goes on and on and on. We are a bunch of superficial lambs. Most appreciate the ornaments over the foundation.
So what about those of us who are a scientist, engineer and CEO all in one?

BTW, the idiom is "sacrificial lamb."
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:32 PM
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Mostly playing bass is likely being an offensive lineman in football.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:27 PM
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I'm reminded of a time I was asked to cover at church, and I did something of the same because the bandleader was complaining that the bass sounded too loud. So I stood faking the song with my amp turned off. He still complained, but got a shock when he found out I'd not actually been doing anything.
Why does this happen at Church? Yes, I have had the same thing, actualy No Guitar Cable from bass to amp, only my wife (flute) noticed. Worship leader and guitarist both complained!
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Does anyone else have the problem of having your guitarist come to practice and force you to tune your bass to his guitar? I have this happen repeatedly, despite my tuning my bass before every session and NEVER seeing him use a tuner. I hate playing with this asshat anyways, and I really am trying to stick with the band, but it's wearing thin.
Has he ever heard of a 440 A. If you are not tuned to it you are screwing your vocalist. If their voice is off that pitch then you tune up or down to accordingly. Tell the guitarist to step-up to professional level. If you are incorporating a house piano then you must tune to that.
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If you've ever spent time in a cover band, have you been amazed by how many times people -- even bandmates -- compliment you on something you've played, as though it was your idea, when actually it's a hugely conspicuous element of the original bassist's part?
I've had this conversation several times in the last year:
"Are you sure that's the right part?"
"Yup that's how the song goes"
"The old guy didn't play it like that"
"I learned it the right way and play the song the way it's supposed to be. That separates a good casino band from an average bar band."

And my favorite line from my drummer on having mostly backing tracks now.
"We just used to rock it out and it was ok"
"Yup but now we have nice backing tracks and sound like a great band instead of a bar band. We're better than that now."
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:39 PM
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You sir, are awesome!

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Old 03-07-2012, 08:15 PM
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I'd refuse to play with him until he obtains and uses a tuner. Sounds like a moron to me. An imbecile, perhaps.
I'm officially done with this guy, and the band. He actually thinks meteorology has to do with the study of meteors.
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