too funny for a short title

[debassr]

Originally Posted by Bluesy Soul

The name "Oktay" is apparently fairly common in Turkey and is well-known in science, sports (soccer) and various forms of the arts, including popular music (Turkish) since the 1970s.

Most people would never describe me as uptight or humorless, but I don't see a shred of humor or anything else that justifies mockery in that performance. The music is undoubtedly based on some scales, structures and other culturally-based forms that are foreign to Americans; but, for all the wonderful things America offers, many Americans are unbelievably parochial. Sadly, some feel compelled to ridicule anything they fail to understand.

Those who find that video funny and mock it are speaking volumes about their own shortcomings of exposure, intelligence, imagination and tolerance. I doubt the players in the video suffer from those same shortcomings.

Bluesy Soul

Dude, lighten up before your head explodes. Just because it's foreign doesn't mean anyone has to like it, nor does it mean that someone who doesn't like it has "shortcomings".

[Bluesy Soul]

Originally Posted by debassr

Dude, lighten up before your head explodes. Just because it's foreign doesn't mean anyone has to like it, nor does it mean that someone who doesn't like it has "shortcomings".

Dude, like don't mischaracterize or misquote me, dig. NO ONE said anyone had to like it and I never mentioned people who "didn't like it". I'm talking about posters who ridiculed it, mocked it, laughed at it and criticized it. There's a huge disctinction between that and not liking it--if your own exposure, intelligence, imagination and (in)tolerance can comprehend that. Like, do you dig the difference? Dude?

Bluesy Soul

[debassr]

I really dislike people who flip-flop on their own convictions. You said...

Originally Posted by Bluesy Soul

Those who find that video funny and mock it are speaking volumes about their own shortcomings of exposure, intelligence, imagination and tolerance. I doubt the players in the video suffer from those same shortcomings.

I also dislike people who then turn around and personally attack people who disagree with them - like this...

Originally Posted by Bluesy Soul

Dude, like don't mischaracterize or misquote me, dig. NO ONE said anyone had to like it and I never mentioned people who "didn't like it". I'm talking about posters who ridiculed it, mocked it, laughed at it and criticized it. There's a huge disctinction between that and not liking it--if your own exposure, intelligence, imagination and (in)tolerance can comprehend that. Like, do you dig the difference? Dude?

Bluesy Soul

So basically, I guess I just don't like you or your condescending opinions. I can appreciate the fact that you brought a different POV to this thread, but the way you delivered the message and then responded to me personally was pure suck...DUDE.

[WayneS]

Originally Posted by Bluesy Soul

Dude, like don't mischaracterize or misquote me, dig. NO ONE said anyone had to like it and I never mentioned people who "didn't like it". I'm talking about posters who ridiculed it, mocked it, laughed at it and criticized it. There's a huge disctinction between that and not liking it--if your own exposure, intelligence, imagination and (in)tolerance can comprehend that. Like, do you dig the difference? Dude?

Bluesy Soul

The bass player was awful and his tone sucked. Hell... he missed most of the pops and his slides sounded terrible.

To me, the rest of the music was ok. But the bass was not good at all.

[Bluesy Soul]

Originally Posted by debassr

I really dislike people who flip-flop on their own convictions. You said...

I also dislike people who then turn around and personally attack people who disagree with them - like this...

So basically, I guess I just don't like you or your condescending opinions. I can appreciate the fact that you brought a different POV to this thread, but the way you delivered the message and then responded to me personally was pure suck...DUDE.

Certainly even you must comprehend how little I care whether you like me or my opinions. I stand by them.

And to those who think that the quality of the bass playing is justification for mockery, ridicule, etc.--as if their appreciation of world music and predominant Middle Eastern bass technique were the basis for any kind of comparison--are you serious!? Are you THAT insecure? Stop kidding yourself! Stand up close to the urinal.

Bluesy Soul

[debassr]

Originally Posted by Bluesy Soul

Certainly even you must comprehend how little I care whether you like me or my opinions. I stand by them.

And to those who think that the quality of the bass playing is justification for mockery, ridicule, etc.--as if their appreciation of world music and predominant Middle Eastern bass technique were the basis for any kind of comparison--are you serious!? Are you THAT insecure? Stop kidding yourself! Stand up close to the urinal.

Bluesy Soul

Wow. Not that I could follow your convoluted, flip-flopping logic from the beginning, but in trying to untangle that mess of a response you just posted above I realized that the effort is just making me dumber and is just giving you an opportunity to spout off even more ridiculousness. I'm actually mad that I allowed myself to be sucked into your trolling behavior.

Unsubscribed.

[T-Bird]

Hi.

Not my cup of tea, but:

Originally Posted by WayneS

The bass player was awful and his tone sucked. Hell... he missed most of the pops and his slides sounded terrible.

To me, the rest of the music was ok. But the bass was not good at all.

+1. My guess is that the performance was live, not lipsync, and there was something wrong with the bassists monitor.

Watched the other video by the same title, a heavier camcorder version, and that bassist (the same?) played lefty.

Just my 0.02€
Sam

[Tbirdbassist]

The bass playing in the video the OP linked to is horrid. But in the other videos there's some sense of time.


Bluesy Soul, you make me laugh. Chill out.

[double-muff]

kind of reminds me of this
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUfyzEhT_LQ

[Rudreax]

Originally Posted by Bluesy Soul

The name "Oktay" is apparently fairly common in Turkey and is well-known in science, sports (soccer) and various forms of the arts, including popular music (Turkish) since the 1970s.

Most people would never describe me as uptight or humorless, but I don't see a shred of humor or anything else that justifies mockery in that performance. The music is undoubtedly based on some scales, structures and other culturally-based forms that are foreign to Americans; but, for all the wonderful things America offers, many Americans are unbelievably parochial. Sadly, some feel compelled to ridicule anything they fail to understand.

Those who find that video funny and mock it are speaking volumes about their own shortcomings of exposure, intelligence, imagination and tolerance. I doubt the players in the video suffer from those same shortcomings.

Bluesy Soul

...I giggled a little.

[Munjibunga]

Here they are on Regis and Kelly.

Oktar

[Rudreax]

Might as well add, on the topic of the argument...

What's wrong with not liking you don't like? I don't care if I can't understand something or why it sounds the way it does; in fact, in a case like that, how I perceive the sound is even more important. I don't totally understand Indian ragas, yet it's only of my favorite genres of music. Oktar just sounds...off. Really off.

[professor_bills]

Is that a bullet hole in his forehead?

[artistanbul]

Originally Posted by Bluesy Soul

The name "Oktay" is apparently fairly common in Turkey and is well-known in science, sports (soccer) and various forms of the arts, including popular music (Turkish) since the 1970s.

Most people would never describe me as uptight or humorless, but I don't see a shred of humor or anything else that justifies mockery in that performance. The music is undoubtedly based on some scales, structures and other culturally-based forms that are foreign to Americans; but, for all the wonderful things America offers, many Americans are unbelievably parochial. Sadly, some feel compelled to ridicule anything they fail to understand.

Those who find that video funny and mock it are speaking volumes about their own shortcomings of exposure, intelligence, imagination and tolerance. I doubt the players in the video suffer from those same shortcomings.

Bluesy Soul

Believe it or not turkish people can be ridiculous as well.
I'm turkish, I know it firsthand.

The only thing good about the video is that the guy playing the bass looks really happy

[armywalaby]

Originally Posted by Jordasch

That may be the worst bass playing YouTube has to offer. I wonder if Marlowe could pull off that genre.?

No, Sir. THIS is the worst youtube has to offer.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ukjnrXTTvPY