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12-14-2010, 01:25 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada | | | Weird gig situation - what do I do?
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I was hired about a month ago to play a 5 night casino run over Christmas. It's r&b, soul, and funk tunes mostly. The instrumentation is kind of weird: live vocals, drums, and bass (me). The singer is the bandleader and she said we'd be running tracks, so I just assumed she would buy professional backing tracks with vocals, bass and drums removed.
Well, fast forward to today when I FINALLY receive the tracks (the bad organization and continuous delays are subjects for another story). The tracks are karaoke versions of the songs that she's downloaded from youtube. They are minus vocals only, so my bass parts and the drum parts are covered in the track.
So now I don't really have a role to fulfill in this gig. There's no way I'm charting 50 songs in 1 week with note for note accuracy just to play along with karaoke tracks, but I would feel like a total and complete asshat if I just played 'air bass' for a week.
I thought about trying to contribute to the sound with some bass embellishments and background vocals and possibly even some guitar or keys (which I play at a less professional level than bass).
Basically, I'm turning to you wise gurus of gigs to offer me some advice or sympathy for this odd situation.
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12-14-2010, 01:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Eastern Wisconsin | | | I'm assuming it's too late to just cancel on this ridiculous shenanigan? It sounds like something you never would have agreed to if you knew what it was actually about.
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12-14-2010, 01:35 PM
|  | My basses pay the bills that pay for more basses Unofficially Endorsing Genz Benz, Fender, Avatar TB-153 Cabs, Musicman | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale Az | | | Adding your own stuff will only increase your margin for error. First, I would have a really good laugh, and then I would just fake my way through the whole thing laughing at myself all the while. I hate tracks, so I know how you feel, but maybe if you watch enough Backstreet Boys videos amd cop enough dance moves before the gig, you could make yourself a pretty funny you tube 'air bass' video. Another winner would be to stop playing and get a crowd clap going while bass parts are clearly supposed to be being played! Just focus on the humorous side of the endeavor! Best Wishes...and my fingers are crossed for a you tube video of this experience! | 
12-14-2010, 01:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) | | Hi.
I'm nowhere near pro enough to give You anything but symphaty, what a fine situation you're gotten into.
I would probably ask her ***? Are You joking? But that kind of attitude is not very professional.
Perhaps I'd do what Iron Maiden did when they had to use a backing track against their will in their first Top Of The Pops appearance (that wasn't very professional either  ).
Good luck, what ever You may decide to do.
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12-14-2010, 01:36 PM
| | | | If the gig pays decent
Here's what I'd do:
Learn the songs, but for my own sake, and not "note-for-note". Play the gig quietly, so you can hear yourself. If she's running the BS utube trax through the PA, you really don't want to be heard much anyway. Also, since you're not really playing, have a great time. Dance around, do whatever you want. Have fun in a way that this opportunity allows you to have.
If the gig does NOT pay well and you don't mind burning bridges:
Cancel. Try to find a sub, maybe. | 
12-14-2010, 01:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Berkeley, CA | | | Have you asked the bandleader what is actually expected?
If the money's good, I guess I'd just suffer through and do whatever was asked of me. | 
12-14-2010, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stereo Joe I thought about trying to contribute to the sound with some bass embellishments and background vocals and possibly even some guitar or keys (which I play at a less professional level than bass). | This.
And do not feel like an asshat if you have to do a little Robert Palmer girl band thing every once in awhile. You're still getting paid.
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12-14-2010, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stereo Joe ...I would feel like a total and complete asshat if I just played 'air bass' for a week. | Smile big, put your @sshat on, and get paid.
Next time, ask more questions, lol.
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12-14-2010, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by agreatheight Smile big, put your @sshat on, and get paid.
Next time, ask more questions, lol. | +1 | 
12-14-2010, 01:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Duke City | | | What exactly were you hired to do, if not actually to play the tunes? | 
12-14-2010, 01:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: University Place, WA | | | Sounds like an easy gig!
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12-14-2010, 02:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada | | | Yeah, the gig pays fairly well, so I can't really back out. I guess I'll get to be an asshat for a week!
I'm just going to play some simple stuff and try not to get in the way of the track.
To matters worse, most of the tracks are cheesy midi sounds... yay!
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12-14-2010, 02:16 PM
|  | Corevalay.com | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New Jersey | | | Almost sounds like the singer really didn't know what she was doing in the first place. At this point it's just grin and bear it I guess.
It could be worse, she could just use the tracks and let you go.
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12-14-2010, 02:20 PM
|  | The Funkfather Endorsing Artist: Kohlman Bassworks | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia | | | My question is........did she really get hired by a casino?
What kind of demo did she present? This doesn't sound like a pro gig by any means. How did she get this gig? Have you all rehearsed any? Youtube midi files? Seriously?
This would be a tough call for me. | 
12-14-2010, 02:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cadillac, MI | | | Definitely call and see what's expected. I did a MIDI gig once, the guy sent me tracks that included the bass. When it came time for the show the bass tracks were turned off.
The only downside was that there was one tune he had forgotten to give me that I had no idea how to play, he turned up the MIDI bass track and I went out into the crowd to check out the sound. When I returned to the stage he forgot to turn the bass track off and I had to "air bass" it for three songs until I could get his attention. | 
12-14-2010, 02:34 PM
|  | The Funkfather Endorsing Artist: Kohlman Bassworks | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Modulator Definitely call and see what's expected. I did a MIDI gig once, the guy sent me tracks that included the bass. When it came time for the show the bass tracks were turned off.
The only downside was that there was one tune he had forgotten to give me that I had no idea how to play, he turned up the MIDI bass track and I went out into the crowd to check out the sound. When I returned to the stage he forgot to turn the bass track off and I had to "air bass" it for three songs until I could get his attention. | I was in a 'midi' band as well. Horrible experience. Dude had everything running including bass and drums! The drummer could not keep in sync! You know how that turned out every gig! I bailed! | 
12-14-2010, 02:36 PM
| | | | If it's at a casino no one will notice or even care. They'll probably just be looking at the girl. To most people it's just "music". You are up there "playing" - so therefore the music is coming from you, in some way. Which bit is you they have no idea. Most punters don't know where the saxophone starts and the drums begin.
I'd just have fun, be professional, prepare properly - who knows - you might end up with bass-less backing tracks on the night! In any case, get through the gig, be good musical and moral support for the singer.
THEN, if it goes off well (as far as the casino is concerned) you may get another booking and you then have a bit of respect with the singer and you can then say you need better tracks next time.
All the best with it. | 
12-14-2010, 02:40 PM
| | Registered User Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | Man I'd air bass my Azz off and collect the dough.
But that's just me.
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12-14-2010, 02:51 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Tampa | | | 5 nights, good cash? I'd grin + bear it, and then let the singer know you'd happily play with her again but only if the tracks were ditched. Unless, of course, the money is just way too good to refuse no matter the circumstances.
From her POV, sounds like an enormous waste of $$. Why would she want to pay musicians if she were just going to play tracks? | 
12-14-2010, 02:53 PM
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