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Old 08-03-2011, 01:24 PM
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What genre is still free from trueness?

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"Authentic country", "real hip-hop", and now "tr00 pop punk"... will they never stop? What genre is still free of people who want things to be exactly like they were 10 or 30 or 300 years ago, only with all the fun removed?
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None, or all of them depending on how you look at it. Genre's are social constructs designed to classify and/or distinguish various types of music. To me, theyre just words, and are sometimes, often, meaningless.
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:13 AM
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Good point. No one's going on a crusade to remove all the fun from grunge. But that's only because there isn't much fun there to remove in the first place...
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Old 08-04-2011, 04:13 AM
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To me, theyre just words, and are sometimes, often, meaningless.
seconded!

when you look at the massive number of genres today, it's even impossible to be sure in what genre you find yourself.

we should have stopped inventing new genres in the 80's.
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Old 08-04-2011, 04:26 AM
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Always keep in mind that musical genres largely are imposed by non-musicians trying to fit others' creativity into their narrow, heavily filtered, media driven world. Can genres be helpful when distinguishing between general types of music, such as jazz vs. rock? Yes. But genres are also incredibly limiting, blinding and divisive, especially when one starts arguing about all kinds of narrow sub-sub-genres with few (if any) significant differences. The metal scene is particularly bad about this...
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Us musicians hate being labeled as "funk, country, hip-hop etc.." but seriously, how would you sell and or market music if you didn't put it into a catagory? Remember, to us it's a passion but to the labels it's BUSINESS.Period.
Come on, we all know those guys:
"Hey, bro my music is like, you know, like Outkast meets Tom Waits plus Southern Gospel with a little Eastern Europe Gypsy Music in there..." Great bro! but how do you market that?
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Us musicians hate being labeled as "funk, country, hip-hop etc.." but seriously, how would you sell and or market music if you didn't put it into a catagory? Remember, to us it's a passion but to the labels it's BUSINESS.Period.
Come on, we all know those guys:
"Hey, bro my music is like, you know, like Outkast meets Tom Waits plus Southern Gospel with a little Eastern Europe Gypsy Music in there..." Great bro! but how do you market that?
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:21 AM
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Any style (or genre) that can CLEARLY be defined has probably stopped evolving.
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None, or all of them depending on how you look at it. Genre's are social constructs designed to classify and/or distinguish various types of music. To me, theyre just words, and are sometimes, often, meaningless.
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:44 PM
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we should have stopped inventing new genres in the 80's.
But then we would never have seen the likes of crabcore or post hard-crabcore screamo
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I guess by the time it's an established genre, with its own special characteristics and fanclub, then it's "true".

Anyone that comes along after that who strays away from the "true" style far enough to be recognisably different, yet not far enough to get other bands to copy them and create a new "true" genre, gets labeled as noname miscreant deviants. Until they hit it big and then everyone copys them, morphing the original genre, but a significant number of fans of the "original" genre will hate them forever. Witness Nickleback.
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When I was a kid way back in the 70s there were only two types of music, rock and soul.

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Any style (or genre) that can CLEARLY be defined has probably stopped evolving.
or DEvolving.
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I listened to all of my 6 Mudhoney albums yesterday at work. It was awesome. That is true grunge.
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Personally, I have always thought that, if I owned a retail music store, the stock would only be classified into "Good" and "Other" . . . . .
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