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10-20-2008, 05:31 AM
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My former teacher sent me this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-EuyEsYTE
For some of you who speak German, I would be interested to actually know what they are talking about. For the rest of us, enjoy the translation...
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10-20-2008, 06:53 AM
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10-20-2008, 10:40 AM
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10-20-2008, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua  Springtime for Hitler! Winter for Poland and France! | "Don't be stupid; be a schmahtie; come and join the N*z* pahty!" |
10-20-2008, 11:49 AM
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10-20-2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Swanson For some of you who speak German, I would be interested to actually know what they are talking about. For the rest of us, enjoy the translation... | I forget what the title of the movie is but it's like the "Fall of Hitler" or something like that. That scene is towards of the end of the war in 1945 and the Generals are telling him that they're losing. Of course at this point the guy is pretty much insane and denying said reality. It's actually quite a sad and pathetic scene cuz the movie portrayed him as also someone who brought Germany together.
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10-20-2008, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hdiddy It's actually quite a sad and pathetic scene cuz the movie portrayed him as also someone who brought Germany together.
| Whoa, that's twisted.
SOME of Germany, right?! The part that wasn't systematically rounded up and murdered? 
Maybe its my gaffe to post something that tries to make humor out of such a f**ked up situation...
I meant it as Ed Fuqua took it. Thanks for the "The Producers" line...
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10-20-2008, 12:41 PM
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10-20-2008, 01:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brussels | | | the are talking about the front line and the attack by 'steiner' which didn't take place. hence adolf gets pissed off cos he ordered that attack. that film is called 'der untergang' by the way. maybe i watched a different version, but there is nothing in the film that portrays hitler as bringing germany together. how could it? it's about the end in the bunker, and very little about the outside world.
by the way, the 'translation' is quite pathetic.
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10-20-2008, 01:37 PM
| | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | it's not a translation, it's a mockery. there's a million of these clips ranging from Halo3 to jazz now that makes fun of Hitler using that scene from Der Untergang. By hook or by crook, Germany did become sort of a superpower - of the backs and skulls of the innocent. Maybe he didn't bring it together but I was thinking of the scene when he's talking with one of his close aides about creating the perfect socialist society or something like that. It's been a while since I've seen that stuff.
Yeah, I by no means am an apologist in any way, but the jokes based on this movie clip are rather tasteless IMO. It was a ****ed up situation for everyone, Hitler included even tho it was of his own doing. If you watch the original clip with a proper translation all the mockeries made of it just lose all it's humor and everything becomes kinda empty.
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10-20-2008, 01:46 PM
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Be more thoughtful before starting a thread again...
Sorry, folks, for my ignorance or insensitivity...
So...what about "The Producers" (the Mostel/Wilder version)? Equally tasteless?
Or is humor just pain plus time? Some essential thing that we like about the unexpected...?
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10-20-2008, 03:49 PM
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Eric, some people just don't have a clue! Please continue any tasteless posts you have. I'm right here with you honey. Tasteless is my middle name, except in terms of music.
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10-20-2008, 04:41 PM
| | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | Well the Producers... it's just manufactured comedy intended to be over the top. It's a Mel Brooks production ffs! And he's jewish which even adds another layer of incredulity. Kinda mind boggling if you ask me. I saw it live in NYC a few years ago (Mr. Brooks did a cameo in it) and it was a good time. |
10-20-2008, 07:23 PM
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I'm kidding.. I'm Kidding and sometimes tasteless is good. Have an Italian friend who grew up in New York and told me Raging Bull was one of the funniest movies he'd ever seen. I didn't get it until I watched it with him and he explained that was pretty much the neighborhood he grew up in. Always a little truth & pain in humor (IMHO) or whatever! |
10-20-2008, 07:43 PM
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10-20-2008, 09:23 PM
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There were people who found "Hogan's Heroes" offensive.
Robert Clary, who played the part of "Lebeau" in the series, was the only one of thirteen members of his immediate family who survived the death camps.
Though there is nothing funny about the Nazis, poking fun at them (a la Mel Brooks) provides a relief of sorts. This is not the same as making fun of the Holocaust. |
10-21-2008, 01:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Tx | | | The footage is from a fantastic film called Downfall. Bruno Ganz gives an incredible performance as Hitler. Ganz is an amazing actor. It is one of the few films about that actually made by Germans in Germany.
It is a touchy subject.
I will say in Israel they tell a lot of holocaust jokes. I did a tour there with a German musician and the Israelis just started in with the jokes right away, just to see how she would react. It was a kind of hazing ritual or something. |
10-21-2008, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton Oh boy. I bet I get another threat on this one.
Eric, some people just don't have a clue! Please continue any tasteless posts you have. I'm right here with you honey. Tasteless is my middle name, except in terms of music. | (Sung to the tune of "Born Under a Bad Sign"..."If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all..."
Its about how something hits us, right? For me, this clip came at 6:00am, via email, with no accompanying note, from my old bass teacher, Terry Plumeri. He is about as serious, as accomplished, and as intense a guy as I have met, musically speaking. So, maybe it struck me as funnier because of my bleary early-morning context and the messenger...
Paul, I may not have much choice as far as tasteless posts...Too often, what I say seems to be received like a fart in an elevator...  Oh well...thanks for the vote of confidence...
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10-21-2008, 10:40 AM
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Hitler says he would prefer an Elvis impersonator instead of jazz. Elvis would have only been 10 years old at the time. Oops, I guess the writers didn't do their research.
It's interesting to see some people's reaction to certain types of music! In my youth I was a car jockey at a dealership. I was giving a customer a lift home. I turned the radio to a classical music station and the customer nearly exploded in an anti-gay diatribe. (the music playing was the slow movement of a Brahms piano concerto - if you added a drum set playing a quiet beat in the background, it would sound just like an intro to a pop ballad)
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