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12-22-2010, 03:43 PM
| | | | how does one become as BA as mingus?
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12-31-2010, 10:01 AM
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12-31-2010, 03:27 PM
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12-31-2010, 04:27 PM
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Seriously, what characterizes Mingus' playing is that left everything on the bandstand, every time. He only played in situations which allowed that, and if there weren't any, he created them.
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09-15-2011, 10:39 PM
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Get a jazz club.
Combine the two. |
09-16-2011, 06:22 AM
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09-18-2011, 06:15 AM
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Being a black, brilliant jazz bassist/composer/activist during his period in this country = anger and bitterness.
IMO, musically and in other ways, he used it to great advantage. This music wouldn't be the same without his impact on it.
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09-18-2011, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton  Being a black, brilliant jazz bassist/composer/activist during his period in this country = anger and bitterness.
IMO, musically and in other ways, he used it to great advantage. This music wouldn't be the same without his impact on it. | Truly spoken. You could probably add in manic-depressive as well. He always gave 100% to the music, and expected others to do the same. |
09-18-2011, 11:16 AM
|  | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | Not to also mention he wasn't fully 100% black - didn't completely look black and was half chinese, hence rejected by all racial circles. Then having the childhood trauma of suckling on your mothers breast as she died. Pretty sad if you stopped to consider all of his circumstances.
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09-19-2011, 09:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. | | My kids are half asian. At Crenshaw High, a primarily black High school in south Los Angeles, my son said he was the only white kid in the school. He was the captain of their baseball team the 2 years he went there and subsequently has a baseball scholarship. Now he goes to a white Pentacostal College in Springfield, Missouri in the middle of the Heartland. He thinks he's black now. His roomate's black. His girlfriend's black. What happened to the asian part? You got me. But he still has to have his rice. Go figure. My experience in New York going to school in Harlem at C.C.N.Y. in the 80s is that black culture is very accepting of multiracialism. Trust me, if you're one iota black and you are a stand out at anything, they will own you. And if your not black, they will lie and say you're PART. They don't give a **** really, what you look like.
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09-19-2011, 11:52 PM
| | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | I dunno Chuck, I would think 50's society is gonna be much different than 80's.
It was Mingus himself who said he was rejected by the black community. He tried to pass himself off as latino at one point. Go watch Triumph of the Underdog (it's on Netflix btw).
He says they called him "half-yellow ****-colored mother****er". Yeah that's real acceptance there. 
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09-20-2011, 10:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. | | | Point well taken about 50s versus 80s and present. But look at Pres, Billie, and Bird. Full blooded. I don't think so. Not accepted by the black community because of their multiracial background? | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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