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03-14-2012, 08:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: COLORADO | | | I bet it would be easier for a black guy to become a NY Fireman than it would be for a white guy get on the Detroit city council.
I wonder.........lawsuit????? I sure could use the money. | 
03-14-2012, 09:10 AM
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03-14-2012, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nortonrider I bet it would be easier for a black guy to become a NY Fireman than it would be for a white guy get on the Detroit city council.
I wonder.........lawsuit????? I sure could use the money. | Comparisons are moot. If discrimination is happening anywhere to anyone, it should be exposed and dealt with.
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03-14-2012, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nortonrider I wonder.........lawsuit????? I sure could use the money. | Go for it! Sounds like a good use of your time. | 
03-14-2012, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FilterFunk Comparisons are moot. Sorry, I thought this thread was about racially biased city government.
If discrimination is happening anywhere to anyone, it should be exposed and dealt with. Agree, I thought that's what I was doing. | just sayin'. | 
03-14-2012, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by seventhson Go for it! Sounds like a good use of your time. | for 128 million dollars - it very well could be. | 
03-14-2012, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nortonrider for 128 million dollars - it very well could be. | keep us abreast of your progress. i'm sure you'll present an unassailable case based on logic and fact. | 
03-14-2012, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by seventhson i'm sure you'll present an unassailable case based on logic and fact. | Thank you for your confidence. | 
03-14-2012, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonesomedave i bet the US Supreme Court throws this joke into the garbage where it deserves to be. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesomedave nope don't know anything about it. but if the test or the application was discriminatory, I am open to the evidence thereof. | Oy vey...
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03-14-2012, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nortonrider I bet it would be easier for a black guy to become a NY Fireman than it would be for a white guy get on the Detroit city council.
I wonder.........lawsuit????? I sure could use the money. | The city council is elected by the voters--are they who you're going to sue? 
/irrelevant derail
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03-14-2012, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GregC The city council is elected by the voters--are they who you're going to sue? 
/irrelevant derail | I realized it as soon as it was posted but figured that I would leave it up just to see where it went. | 
03-15-2012, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nortonrider I realized it as soon as it was posted but figured that I would leave it up just to see where it went. | So you were just trolling?
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03-15-2012, 12:20 AM
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03-15-2012, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cheezewiz Did you even read my second sentence? | Indeed I did. I also read your third sentence. And I thought it was misplaced...
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03-15-2012, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga What is the ratio of black applicants to white applicants? | My understanding to this situation is limited to what was in the link, but it looks like part of the problem is that blacks were, by design, discouraged from applying
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03-15-2012, 09:57 AM
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03-15-2012, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nortonrider just sayin'. | The Detroit City Council isn't an example of racially biased government - because the government doesn't choose the members of the City Council.
The Detroit City Council may be an example of a racially biased electorate, but there is nothing inherent in the requirements for Detroit City Council which are racially biased.
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03-15-2012, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Atoz | From the second link: Quote:
Never mind that the city gave hiring preference to applicants from the Emergency Medical Service, an agency with substantial minority ranks.
Never mind that the city’s efforts sharply increased minority applications, minority representation on the hiring list and minority hiring itself.
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When the first EEOC charge was filed in 2002, New York City’s fire department was 2.9 percent Black. The numbers have not changed at all since then, despite the fact that the City has had five years to try to remedy the problem. As of March 2007, the FDNY included 335 Black firefighters out of a total of approximately 11,500 firefighters, still barely more than 2.9 percent. New York City as a whole, by comparison, is 27 percent Black.
| OK, so someone is just lying here
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03-15-2012, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by macaroni tony OK, so someone is just lying here | Intersting point. I'll be following this story.
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03-15-2012, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by macaroni tony OK, so someone is just lying here | Welcome to New York - where there are usually multiple sides to every story...and none of them is necessarily true...
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