2 Lesbians Raised a Child and This is What They Got

tastybasslines · #1 11-30-2011, 10:54 PM

Two Lesbians Raised A Baby And This Is What They Got | MoveOn.Org

Great speech...moved me a little.

Why do we mostly oppose this again?

MakiSupaStar · #2 11-30-2011, 10:58 PM

Yep. Posted this to my FB profile a little earlier. Very well spoken. He presents a fine example that simply breaks down all the bs propaganda against it.

ShredderMaximus · #3 12-01-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tastybasslines

Two Lesbians Raised A Baby And This Is What They Got | MoveOn.Org

Great speech...moved me a little.

Why do we mostly oppose this again?

I'm afraid that honestly answering this could be grounds for banning. I'll just say a certain group of people decided they don't like it for no REAL reason sooooo...

DeathFromBelow · #4 12-01-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ShredderMaximus

I'm afraid that honestly answering this could be grounds for banning. I'll just say a certain group of people decided they don't like it for no REAL reason sooooo...

Yeah, I think we all know why.

Kwesi · #5 12-01-2011, 12:33 AM

This will absolutely never get old. I saw it months ago but no matter how many times I watch it, it's every bit as powerful as the first. I'd hug the guy.

No homo

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basscooker · #6 12-01-2011, 12:35 AM

there's a young man with a future as an orator. as for the topic, duh. let's be realistic here the kind of laws governing these things were written by the same people or people with the same mentality as those who condoned slavery, prohibithion, macarthyism, internment camps, segregation, and opposed suffrage and e.r.a. legislation. let's not point the finger at those poor defenseless politicians, they just want to do what like-minded people who actually vote tell them so they can fail at doing their jobs effectively, still get paychecks, health insurance and 5 weeks of vacation per annum. and i don't want to get kicked off here, so i'll get off the slippery slope i've already trod upon and not bring up what i think is another main reason, but i will say it involves a very long very old book.

MakiSupaStar · #7 12-01-2011, 12:50 AM

I'm convinced the whole gay marriage 'argument', is nothing but a divisive measure to keep us distracted away from the cause of the real problems in our country. This is not a real problem, and there is no need for a 'solution'.

basscooker · #8 12-01-2011, 12:59 AM

+1. the real problems are reality tv, social networking sites (oops), kim kardashian's love life, conrad murray, and pregnant celebrities, duh. don't you watch cnn?

madmatt · #9 12-01-2011, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by basscooker

+1. the real problems are reality tv, social networking sites (oops), kim kardashian's love life, conrad murray, and pregnant celebrities, duh. don't you watch cnn?

All forms of idolatry or idol worship in one way, shape, or form.

basscooker · #10 12-01-2011, 01:58 AM

iconiclasts-- reunite!

tastybasslines · #11 12-01-2011, 02:20 AM

Well, I didn't mean to create a controversial topic, I just really thought his speech was amazing...gave me the same sort of a feeling as the last speech Al Pacino made in Scent of a Woman, one of my favorite movies.

FreeBassJunky · #12 12-01-2011, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by basscooker

+1. the real problems are reality tv, social networking sites (oops), kim kardashian's love life, conrad murray, and pregnant celebrities, duh. don't you watch cnn?

Remember when CNN covered news instead of non-issues like Demi and Ashton's split?

Bard2dbone · #13 12-01-2011, 04:28 AM

I'll put it this way. More and more, Idiocracy is looking like a documentary.

I don't know if it's just that people in general have become so stupid that it's a wonder they don't starve to death in their house because they can't figure out how to operate doorknobs, or if I maybe only see most people during a phase of their life when they've stopped using their brain at all.

I work at a childrens hospital. I understand that some of the parents I meet there might be so overwhelmed by the circumstance of their child's illness that they just can't think properly. But I think they are a small minority of the population we see. I also get to see the people who demonstrate very clearly that their brain won't work when they go home, either.

Those people? The ones who make us shake our heads and weep for the future of humanity? I see more and more of them every year. It can't be an accident. I think there has to be some kind of plot to make people dumber as time goes by. But whoever started it forgot to install an 'off' switch.

That's why cable station that are alleged to be news providers are in stead delivering huge amounts of tranquilizing pablum to calm the masses. Those people who are currently drooling on themselves while alternately giggling, picking their noses, and wondering about the Kardshians would be terrified to suddenly realize that we are all so desperately screwed. Currently every man, woman, child, and infant in this nation owes more that an average years entire pre-tax pay as just interest on our national debt. There are four to five applicants for every job opening. And things aren't going to get better. If you told all of those people that all at once. I'm pretty sure we'd have either an instant revolution or a sudden huge rash of suicides. Neither of those things sound positive to me. So I guess we'll just have to go back to our televised pacifier.

I think I might be a little bitter tonight.

basscooker · #14 12-01-2011, 04:47 AM

didn't one of the US founding fathers say there should be a revolution every so often? what happened to that kind of mentality-- causing change instead of hoping for it? now you'd be arrested for treason if you tried that stuff. oh wait, first they'd splatter the news with your picture and call you a domestic terrorist, then the arrest after they've tainted any sort of jury pool.

fractiouslowend · #15 12-01-2011, 04:51 AM

can't watch the video at work, will have to check it out when i get home, but still, i am simply astounded that we are even discussing this issue in 2011

i_got_a_mohawk · #16 12-01-2011, 04:56 AM

Great video right there.

And as everyone else has said, it's a null point really. Some people should just keep out of other peoples business!

C.Linton · #17 12-01-2011, 06:07 AM

It always makes me wonder why some folks think it's such a dangerous idea to allow same-sex marriages and adoptions and that it will lead to the destruction of the institutions of marriage and family. I mean, the record of hetereosexuals regarding marriage and family has hardly been the best. If the heteros haven't destroyed those institutions with their poor behavior over these past few thousand years, a few gay families ain't gonna do squat.

Michael Gallant · #18 12-01-2011, 06:37 AM

Seems an odd discussion to find on a forum about musical instruments, but I'm game to jump in on this one. Apart from my intro this is my first post.

I grew up in a family in which the subject of gays was rarely discussed, and they were considered something to be either made fun of or bashed. I grew up with that attitude instilled in me, and it wasn't until some time into my adulthood that I took it upon myself to expel that idea from my mind. It isn't something that happens instantly. It takes effort, and it takes education. I'm not defending those who still hold the view that gays are "bad", but I understand that it takes work. The trick is to legislate education against the idea that gays are "bad". This is a difficult one, because it's like trying to change someone's religious ideas. The parents who oppose gay marriage will resist having their children being taught that gays are OK, just as the parents who defend creationism will resist them being taught evolution.

Michael Gallant · #19 12-01-2011, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by basscooker

didn't one of the US founding fathers say there should be a revolution every so often? what happened to that kind of mentality-- causing change instead of hoping for it? now you'd be arrested for treason if you tried that stuff. oh wait, first they'd splatter the news with your picture and call you a domestic terrorist, then the arrest after they've tainted any sort of jury pool.

I'm not sure about founding fathers, but JFK had this to say:

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

... and I think I'm gonna use that quote as my signature...

Relic · #20 12-01-2011, 07:17 AM

Great video! This guy knows how to speak and knows how to get the truth across.

But just a word of caution here - those who are against gay marriage/adoption are not necessarily bad people. I would say that many if not most are just misinformed and if more folks like the dude in the video had a voice, I'm sure we'd see much wider acceptance.
Just remember that before you go bashing religion or political views as the "culprit".. That's pretty much tantamount to the "pot callin' the kettle black"