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Old 08-17-2010, 04:16 PM
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"The summer of 2010 produced Pakistan’s worst flooding in 80 years. In a televised address on August 14, Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani said that 20 million people, about one-ninth of the population, had been displaced by the disaster.

Flooding began on July 22 in the province of Baluchistan. The swollen waters then poured across the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa Province in the northwest before flowing south into Punjab and Sindh. Estimates of the death toll of the floods range from 1,300 to 1,600.

Television footage from helicopters showed a seemingly endless vista of muddy water, freckled with palm trees. Estimates of grievous long-term economic and political damage from the inundation were constantly revised in more dire directions as the rains continued. Roads, bridges and communications networks across the country were severely damaged, Pakistani officials said..."
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I've been following this, this is freaking HORRIBLE.
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At least the death toll is still pretty low considering the number of people who have been affected.

The lack of food and the high spread of disease which will most likely follow . . . doesn't look good at all
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At least the death toll is still pretty low considering the number of people who have been affected.

The lack of food and the high spread of disease which will most likely follow . . . doesn't look good at all
and that's just what I was thinking. As for the moment, many people are in makeshift camps of their own making or on higher ground, but they have little to no resources barely any shelter. It's only a matter of time before this turns into something very very bad...
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i work in fair trade and have a connection to ten thousand villages (the granddaddies of the industry). when a disaster hits a country that they are connected to, they try to keep us all updated on the fate of the artisans that were affected. this web page is angled from the perspective of the one village where their rug workshops are located. its got pictures and stories. not a general overview, but one perspective.

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Pakistan floods cause 'huge losses' to crops




Children bear brunt of Pakistan flood disaster


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"An Australian Defence Force team has begun treating its first patients in Pakistan, where millions are homeless and there are growing fears about an outbreak of cholera in filthy refugee camps.

The death toll and number of people affected by the Pakistani floods are both expected to jump, but it is becoming clear that children are bearing the brunt of the disaster.

The Australian Medical Task Force in Kot Addu, in southern Punjab province, will provide maternal and children's health, as well as primary health care to 200 patients a day.

Ronnie Taylor, a Darwin-based nurse, treated her first patients at Camp Cockatoo over the weekend.

"I think it's what we expected to see so far, as far as infectious diseases and paediatric cases are concerned," she said in a statement released by the ADF.

"Treating my first patient here was excellent, a really good experience. People seem really happy to see us and there is a huge, huge need here."

Pakistan is now entering its fourth week in flood, and millions are still without food and shelter across the country.

Aid workers have described how parents saw their children washed away when flood waters hit villages and now, young survivors are suffering from disease and hunger in filthy camps.

World Vision Australia's director of policy and programs, Connie Lenneberg, has just returned from Pakistan, where around 6 million people are still homeless.

Ms Lenneberg has told ABC's Radio Australia that the flood zone in Pakistan covers the same area as two-thirds of Victoria, and much of it is still under metres of water.

She says the death toll of 1,600 people has not been updated for more than three weeks and it is expected to rise dramatically.

"The communities that I visited talked about significant loss of life as the floods came through in the night. They came through with great force and velocity," she said.

"Many communities had an hour in the middle of the night to prepare.

"People spoke particularly about losing children, about little ones being washed away in the mayhem that was happening."

Ms Lenneberg says with stagnant water everywhere, little food and shelter, health is the next catastrophe for Pakistan.

She says the health of children is on a knife edge.

"These tiny little children living in very crowded camps and seeing their health deteriorating, seeing them with skin disorders, covered in boils, with diarrhoea," she said.

"These children were malnourished and vulnerable to begin with, so we are hearing of more and more deaths occurring.

"Seeing children who are one-year-old, 18 months, who look like they're four or five months old. They're so fragile."

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"Ms Lenneberg says authorities now fear Pakistan could be on the brink of an outbreak of cholera.

"No one's naming it that [cholera] yet because the tests are quite complicated, but the government is setting out 67 intensive care diarrhoea isolation wards, so it is an enormous risk," she said.

"We're hearing from MSF [Medecins Sans Frontieres] for example, in some of their clinics 50 per cent of the cases they're seeing are acute diarrhoea."

Meanwhile, aid is trickling through to some of the 20 million Pakistanis affected by the floods, but locals are angry that the Pakistani government has not done more to help.

Ms Lenneberg has described visiting some towns and villages in central Pakistan where the flood waters are still so high that only the tops of palm trees are visible above the water.

In some areas further north, the water is starting to recede and locals are rebuilding.

Ms Lenneberg says the military has so far played an important role in supporting communities.

"What we have seen is the Pakistan military really step in and make a real difference putting up tents and it's really changed the perspective of the way they're seen by their own community," she said.

"But certainly people are not happy with the way the government been able to respond."

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"Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) or Doctors Without Borders, is a secular humanitarian-aid non-governmental organization best known for its projects in war-torn regions and developing countries facing endemic disease.

Médecins Sans Frontières was created in 1971 by a small group of French doctors in the aftermath of the Biafra secession, who believed that all people have the right to medical care regardless of race, religion, creed or political affiliation, and that the needs of these people outweigh respect for national borders..."
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Yeah I've been following this. It's not just this but it's this, and its timing when combined with all the other humanitarian crisis's in other parts of the world that worries me. I'm not sure what the maximum capacity is for how much we can help. The floods of Pakistan, the earthquake in Haiti, the tsunami of Indonesia, and Summatra, the displaced peoples in Riwanda, not to mention the sweeping famine in other parts of Africa and Asia. It just seems to me that it's getting harder and harder to prevent millions of people from slipping away and dying. I think about this stuff more than I'd like to admit, and I don't see things getting any better.
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Last week I donated what I could to a local collection taken up on behalf of Pakistan flood relief (many of my neighbours have family back in the old country).

And I'll be sending MSF a cheque next month.

It gladdens me to realize that the dough I used to fling away on idiotic cigarettes (I quit smoking ~3 months ago) can now be put to much better use.

I breath better and I sleep better.
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There are many aspects to this flood that are not immediately apparent. The government is encountering problems reaching many areas. In such places, many Muslim organizations with connections to terrorist outfits are using this opportunity to provide the suffering people with supplies, further alienating the commoners from the government and bringing them closer to these organizations. And I wouldn't blame the Pakistani populace for providing support for these organizations and their militants in the future
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There are many aspects to this flood that are not immediately apparent. The government is encountering problems reaching many areas. In such places, many Muslim organizations with connections to terrorist outfits are using this opportunity to provide the suffering people with supplies, further alienating the commoners from the government and bringing them closer to these organizations. And I wouldn't blame the Pakistani populace for providing support for these organizations and their militants in the future
As always the plight of ordinary folks is being exploited by insincere power brokers--on all sides of the conflict...

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Yeah I've been following this. It's not just this but it's this, and its timing when combined with all the other humanitarian crisis's in other parts of the world that worries me. I'm not sure what the maximum capacity is for how much we can help. The floods of Pakistan, the earthquake in Haiti, the tsunami of Indonesia, and Summatra, the displaced peoples in Riwanda, not to mention the sweeping famine in other parts of Africa and Asia. It just seems to me that it's getting harder and harder to prevent millions of people from slipping away and dying. I think about this stuff more than I'd like to admit, and I don't see things getting any better.
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I'm really happy my area has relatively low natural disasters. Those things scare the crap out of me.

Also to Maki's point, It hasn't garnered us any like either. First we were isolationist, now we care to much. I'm just thinking about what would happen if we ended all American support, and the political outcry. Plus maybe this is mother natures way of preventing over population (I know its a bad way to think) and we are stopping the natural process.
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Plus maybe this is mother natures way of preventing over population (I know its a bad way to think) and we are stopping the natural process.
Yes. So was Hurricane Katrina, right?

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Also to Maki's point, It hasn't garnered us any like either. First we were isolationist, now we care to much.
Wow! I want to know who said that! And because the people there are not necessarily falling to their knees to express their gratitude towards Uncle Sam, you're going to stop aid to them. Good approach to charity/relief work, I must say.
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Yes. So was Hurricane Katrina, right? .
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Wow! I want to know who said that! And because the people there are not necessarily falling to their knees to express their gratitude towards Uncle Sam, you're going to stop aid to them. Good approach to charity/relief work, I must say.
Now where did I say that? All I said was that we can't do this forever but if we stopped it would be disastrous for the people we were helping and our country in the global scheme of things.
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I'm confused. How could one natural disaster be perceived as possibly happening to prevent over-population, but not another??? What made one any different from the other?
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I'm confused. How could one natural disaster be perceived as possibly happening to prevent over-population, but not another??? What made one any different from the other?
Population of Pakistan- roughly 166,000,000
Sq Mileage of Pakistan- 307374
540 people per square mile

Population of New Orleans metro area- 1,000,000
Sq mileage- 3,755.2 sq mi
266 people per square mile

If I did the math right.
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