2011 NFL Preseason/ The Beginning

[LilRay]

OK Guys,

As of last night the NFL preseason has begun. A few interesting tidbits aside from Dallas winning.

#1 Field goals make me nervous.

#2 Tubby laid off the Biscuits & Gravy and lost 40lbs

Dallas depth looks good on both sides of the ball. Cincy not so much.

Phillips looked like a starting TE only to get injured.

There is a guy named Nichols QB'ing for Dallas

AND ABOVE ALL I CAN'T WAIT FOR "BATMAN & ROBIN" TO IMPLODE.

TO's contract is so laced with incentives I say they'll have the wheels coming off by week 6. No more Bromance when $ is on the line for TO.

Whatchu guys think? How do you anticipate your games turning out????



God Bless, Ray

[Gard]

I'm hoping to find a way to catch the live broadcast of my NFL CHAMPION Saints versus the Patsies in Foxboro Thursday night.

I'm pretty stoked about the upcoming season, they retained all 11 offensive starters from their Championship Season (during which they were the #1 offense). On defense, 9 of 11 starters are back - Charles Grant is now in Miami taking up a roster spot (for now) and probably eating all the burgers in south Florida (i.e., not missed at ALL in NOLA); and Scott Fujita is now in Cleveland, where he is being overpaid, but hey, good for Scotty - he deserves the payday, IMO.

Added some FA depth on the DL (Alex Brown from the Bears, Wilkerson from the Bucs), drafted some potential on both defense and offense (Robinson from FSU will be a very solid CB IMO, Woods has the potential to be a horse at DT, Grahamat TE has a lot of potential as well - but he only has one year of experience at the college level...).

I'm feelin' a TWO DAT!!!

[MJ5150]

The AFC North will be fun this year. Even Cleveland has a chance to get better. Flacco should be even better than he has been, and if nothing else, it will be fun to watch what comes out of Cincy each week.

Pittsburgh will be fine. With Troy healthy all year, and McFadden back in the secondary, things will be better on defense. While Ben is out, Dixon or Leftwich will do just fine filling in. I am looking most forward to see how the WRs do without Holmes around as the deep threat. Maybe it can be Wallace, but we'll see. Unlike last season, we'll be around come playoff time. After all this season is the Stairway to Seven.

I am very interested to see how Tebow does in Denver. If he ends up playing a lot, I am going to go out to a game at Mile High.

-Mike

[pacojas]

the Raiders WILL win in San Diego this season.
the Giants will take the eastern division.
T.O. will be benched or Chad gets traded.
sorry Gard, but the Saints are going DOWN!!!

[basstotheface]

I see a 10-6, 11-5 season for my Texans. As for the Bucs, well it can only get better I guess.

My biggest hope is to just beat the Colts in the season opener.

[LilRay]

Originally Posted by Gard

I'm hoping to find a way to catch the live broadcast of my NFL CHAMPION Saints versus the Patsies in Foxboro Thursday night.

No coverage at the watering hole you frequent?

oI'm pretty stoked about the upcoming season, they retained all 11 offensive starters from their Championship Season (during which they were the #1 offense). On defense, 9 of 11 starters are back - Charles Grant is now in Miami taking up a roster spot (for now) and probably eating all the burgers in south Florida (i.e., not missed at ALL in NOLA); and Scott Fujita is now in Cleveland, where he is being overpaid, but hey, good for Scotty - he deserves the payday, IMO.

Added some FA depth on the DL (Alex Brown from the Bears, Wilkerson from the Bucs), drafted some potential on both defense and offense (Robinson from FSU will be a very solid CB IMO, Woods has the potential to be a horse at DT, Grahamat TE has a lot of potential as well - but he only has one year of experience at the college level...).

I'm feelin' a TWO DAT!!!

I'm feelin' a Two Dat too. Two losses for the Saints handed to them by Tubby and the Dallas D

Originally Posted by pacojas

the Raiders WILL win in San Diego this season.

Will that be where they get their win?

the Giants will take the eastern division.

WRONG! Different shade of Blue will own that

T.O. will be benched or Chad gets traded.

It'll be like Days of Our lives NFL style.

sorry Gard, but the Saints are going DOWN!!!

To who? The Raiduhs?

I'LL QUOTE THIS STATEMENT ALL SEASON FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.
DALLAS WILL BOTH PLAY IN AND WIN THEIR HOME FIELD SUPER BOWL.

CASE CLOSED.



God Bless, Ray

[MJ5150]

Originally Posted by LilRay

DALLAS WILL BOTH PLAY IN AND WIN THEIR HOME FIELD SUPER BOWL.

You'll need to make sure the Steelers resign Neil O'Donnell if you want the second half of that comment to come true.

-Mike

[LilRay]

Originally Posted by MJ5150

You'll need to make sure the Steelers resign Neil O'Donnell if you want the second half of that comment to come true.

-Mike

Nah, We'll just have a few of the "Shakedancers" take ol' Ben out to the club and he won't know what to do with himself



God Bless, Ray

[pointbass]

On paper, the Giants should be up for a good year ....

Manning had career high stats (4021 yards for 27 TD's with 14 INT's), both Bradshaw and Jacobs have had knee work done and have healed beautifully, Nicks and Manningham have stepped up at wide receiver (although neither is as good as the gun-toting Burress was). The D is in good shape with the usual suspects (Justin Tuck, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka) joined by Jason Pierre-Paul from USF who fits the NYG DT mold beautifully. The corners are good and getting better, and the safety Phillips is finally looking healthy ....

If the running game comes back, the Giants will be tough ...

[MJ5150]

Originally Posted by LilRay

Nah, We'll just have a few of the "Shakedancers" take ol' Ben out to the club and he won't know what to do with himself...

Ya know, unless he really is learning a lesson and improving himself, that may be a better defense week to week than anything an opposing DC can put on the field.

-Mike

[Gard]

Originally Posted by pacojas

the Raiders WILL win in San Diego this season.
the Giants will take the eastern division.
T.O. will be benched or Chad gets traded.
sorry Gard, but the Saints are going DOWN!!!

BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!

You're almost as entertaining as the Cowgirls fans that actually believe they'll be playing a Super Bowl in their home stadium...

...ALMOST.

[MJ5150]

See...I took it as he meant down to Dallas for the SB.

-Mike

[Gard]

Originally Posted by MJ5150

See...I took it as he meant down to Dallas for the SB.

-Mike

From New Orleans, that'd be "up", Dallas is northwest of the greatest city on earth.



The Saints get to make that trip twice this season...once to have a Thanksgiving feast of Cowgirl....second to get Lombardi Gras II underway...

[MJ5150]

Originally Posted by Gard

From New Orleans, that'd be "up", Dallas is northwest of the greatest city on earth.

But from where he is, Central Cali, it is down you hoser.

It's all about perspective man.

-Mike

[LilRay]

Team 2011 Super Bowl XLV Futures Odds
(Money Odds. Payout Per $100 Bet.)
Arizona Cardinals +$5,200 (52 to 1)
Atlanta Falcons +$2,200 (22 to 1)
Baltimore Ravens +$1,300 (13 to 1)
Buffalo Bills +$12,000 (120 to 1)
Carolina Panthers +$5,300 (53 to 1)
Chicago Bears +$2,900 (29 to 1)
Cincinnati Bengals +$2,500 (25 to 1)
Cleveland Browns +$8,500 (85 to 1)
Dallas Cowboys +$850 (17 to 2)
Denver Broncos +$5,000 (50 to 1)
Detroit Lions +$10,000 (100 to 1)
Green Bay Packers +$900 (9 to 1)
Houston Texans +$3,000 (30 to 1)
Indianapolis Colts +$650 (13 to 2)
Jacksonville Jaguars +$5,200 (52 to 1)
Kansas City Chiefs +$10,000 (100 to 1)
Miami Dolphins +$2,800 (28 to 1)
Minnesota Vikings +$1,200 (12 to 1)
New England Patriots +$950 (19 to 2)
New Orleans Saints +$800 (8 to 1)
New York Giants +$1,500 (15 to 1)
New York Jets +$1,200 (12 to 1)
Oakland Raiders +$10,000 (100 to 1)
Philadelphia Eagles +$3,000 (30 to 1)
Pittsburgh Steelers +$2,000 (20 to 1)
San Diego Chargers +$850 (17 to 2)
San Francisco 49ers +$3,800 (38 to 1)
Seattle Seahawks +$5,000 (50 to 1)
St. Louis Rams +$15,000 (150 to 1)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers +$10,000 (100 to 1)
Tennessee Titans +$2,600 (26 to 1)
Washington Redskins +$2,800 (28 to 1)


Nipping at your heels odds wise Mr NOLA

Colts are highest favorites.

Team that loses most starters to injury loses. Ie; Brees/Romo

Whatchu think about Indy being favored over NOLA?



God Bless, Ray

[LSquared]

Interesting post LilRay...
Of course, betting odds reflect the oddsmakers' perceptions of betting patterns rather than an objective analysis of what experts expect.

That said, it;'s hard to argue w/ what they say... Ranked by odds, rather than alphabetical:

IND 13 : 2 15.4%
NO 8 : 1 12.5%
DAL 17 : 2 11.8%
SD 17 : 2 11.8%
GB 9 : 1 11.1%
NE 19 : 2 10.5%
MIN 12 : 1 8.3%
NYJ 12 : 1 8.3%
BAL 13 : 1 7.7%
NYG 15 : 1 6.7%
PIT 20 : 1 5.0%
ATL 22 : 1 4.5%
CIN 25 : 1 4.0%
TEN 26 : 1 3.8%
MIA 28 : 1 3.6%
WAS 28 : 1 3.6%
CHI 29 : 1 3.4%
HOU 30 : 1 3.3%
PHI 30 : 1 3.3%
SF 38 : 1 2.6%
DEN 50 : 1 2.0%
SEA 50 : 1 2.0%
AZ 52 : 1 1.9%
JAX 52 : 1 1.9%
CAR 53 : 1 1.9%
CLE 85 : 1 1.2%
DET 100 : 1 1.0%
KC 100 : 1 1.0%
OAK 100 : 1 1.0%
TB 100 : 1 1.0%
BUF 120 : 1 0.8%
STL 150 : 1 0.7%

[Gard]

Originally Posted by LilRay

Team 2011 Super Bowl XLV Futures Odds
(Money Odds. Payout Per $100 Bet.)
Arizona Cardinals +$5,200 (52 to 1)
Atlanta Falcons +$2,200 (22 to 1)
Baltimore Ravens +$1,300 (13 to 1)
Buffalo Bills +$12,000 (120 to 1)
Carolina Panthers +$5,300 (53 to 1)
Chicago Bears +$2,900 (29 to 1)
Cincinnati Bengals +$2,500 (25 to 1)
Cleveland Browns +$8,500 (85 to 1)
Dallas Cowboys +$850 (17 to 2)
Denver Broncos +$5,000 (50 to 1)
Detroit Lions +$10,000 (100 to 1)
Green Bay Packers +$900 (9 to 1)
Houston Texans +$3,000 (30 to 1)
Indianapolis Colts +$650 (13 to 2)
Jacksonville Jaguars +$5,200 (52 to 1)
Kansas City Chiefs +$10,000 (100 to 1)
Miami Dolphins +$2,800 (28 to 1)
Minnesota Vikings +$1,200 (12 to 1)
New England Patriots +$950 (19 to 2)
New Orleans Saints +$800 (8 to 1)
New York Giants +$1,500 (15 to 1)
New York Jets +$1,200 (12 to 1)
Oakland Raiders +$10,000 (100 to 1)
Philadelphia Eagles +$3,000 (30 to 1)
Pittsburgh Steelers +$2,000 (20 to 1)
San Diego Chargers +$850 (17 to 2)
San Francisco 49ers +$3,800 (38 to 1)
Seattle Seahawks +$5,000 (50 to 1)
St. Louis Rams +$15,000 (150 to 1)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers +$10,000 (100 to 1)
Tennessee Titans +$2,600 (26 to 1)
Washington Redskins +$2,800 (28 to 1)


Nipping at your heels odds wise Mr NOLA

Colts are highest favorites.

Team that loses most starters to injury loses. Ie; Brees/Romo

Whatchu think about Indy being favored over NOLA?



God Bless, Ray

Everyone's perception of the Saints is colored by the past, not the present or future.

Fine with me, I like being a slight underdog...

...as I've pointed out already, the team has returned 20 of 22 starters, and the ENTIRE coaching staff - find another team that has done that following a SB win...or heck, after ANY season. They have also added a great deal of depth in many key areas, so I have confidence that TWO DAT is not just a pair of words that rhyme with WHO DAT, it's a statement of fact.

[DigMe]

Originally Posted by Gard

From New Orleans, that'd be "up",

Everywhere is "up" when you're coming from below sea level.

bc

[Gard]

Originally Posted by DigMe

Everywhere is "up" when you're coming from below sea level.

bc

Just remember, we taught everyone how to get down....


Best music.

Best food.

BEST FOOTBALL!!!

[Gard]

Originally Posted by MJ5150

But from where he is, Central Cali, it is down you hoser.

It's all about perspective man.

-Mike

Point taken, sir.