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Old 02-22-2011, 07:51 AM
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3rd Police officer killed in the line of duty...

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within a month pretty much just across the bay from me in St. Pete.

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/feb...st/news-metro/

There have already been 27(8?) law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty this year...
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Very sad. Here in NJ we've had several incidents as well, including an officer who was shot execution style last month. Freaking horrible

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...officer_c.html
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Perhaps they should consider moving to the UK:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_line_of_duty

I had no idea so few police were killed in the line of duty in the UK. Most of the deaths on the police honour rolls appear to be accidental deaths not in the line of duty (eg road accidents etc).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_line_of_duty

I had no idea so few police were killed in the line of duty in the UK. Most of the deaths on the police honour rolls appear to be accidental deaths not in the line of duty (eg road accidents etc).
Or doing something about the easy availability of guns.
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Or doing something about the easy availability of guns.
Please don't turn this into a gun thread. You know that it is a no win situation and it will be closed...
I'd honestly rather look into why cops are being killed so seemingly frequently rather than how. Sure, there's a direct correlation but still - what makes a criminal so intent or amendable (not sure which word to use) on pulling the trigger in the first place? There's more to it than "just guns".
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:07 AM
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Please don't turn this into a gun thread. You know that it is a no win situation and it will be closed...
I'd honestly rather look into why cops are being killed so seemingly frequently rather than how. Sure, there's a direct correlation but still - what makes a criminal so intent or amendable (not sure which word to use) on pulling the trigger in the first place? There's more to it than "just guns".
If you're not prepared to look at all of the information you're not really looking for an answer. Just say'n.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:13 AM
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If you're not prepared to look at all of the information you're not really looking for an answer. Just say'n.
Whatever.
Might as well just close the thread now and avoid any intelligent conversation.
Yes, it's all guns.
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How do you keep a person honest and law abiding?

Don't give them the chance in the first place.

Some people are just bad people and yes it does come down to if said bad person did not have a gun he would resort to knives. you HAVE to look at how many guns there are in America.

1 gun for every 8 people and that number keeps getting smaller.

I'm not anti-gun. But the NRA doesnt do the world any favors.

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I need to compare gun ownership laws in Illinois to California.
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How do you keep a person honest and law abiding?

Don't give them the chance in the first place.

Some people are just bad people and yes it does come down to if said bad person did not have a gun he would resort to knives. you HAVE to look at how many guns there are in America.

1 gun for every 8 people and that number keeps getting smaller.

I'm not anti-gun. But the NRA doesnt do the world any favors.

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I need to compare gun ownership laws in Illinois to California.
Yes, this is more along the lines of what I was talking about. Guns are playing a direct role, but someone is very at ease with pulling the trigger, why?
A gun is a tool, but why are so many seemingly so willing to use that tool?
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Please don't turn this into a gun thread. You know that it is a no win situation and it will be closed...
I'd honestly rather look into why cops are being killed so seemingly frequently rather than how. Sure, there's a direct correlation but still - what makes a criminal so intent or amendable (not sure which word to use) on pulling the trigger in the first place? There's more to it than "just guns".
I'm sure the ecocnomy has a lot to do with it. People lose their jobs, get desperate and crime goes up. There are many variables I'm sure, but I'd bet that would be a major one.
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Its my estimation that there'd be a whole lot of public servants killed if we forced people to give up their guns to keep public servants from being killed.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:36 PM
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The officer wasn't wearing his vest that likely would have saved him.
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Hmm, lots of anti-gun sentiment here so far. Have you ever though about how the areas with the most gun crime have the strictest gun control laws? Perhaps it's the restricting of the people's freedoms that causes higher rates of crime.
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Friggin' stop it, this isn't a gun thread. I find it extremely disrespectful people use an officer's death to help their political agenda.

This shooting happened across the street from my house and cops have been knocking on my door nonstop.

I hope this man RIP, he deserves it.
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Friggin' stop it, this isn't a gun thread. I find it extremely disrespectful people use an officer's death to help their political agenda.

This shooting happened across the street from my house and cops have been knocking on my door nonstop.

I hope this man RIP, he deserves it.
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Hmm, lots of anti-gun sentiment here so far. Have you ever though about how the areas with the most gun crime have the strictest gun control laws? Perhaps it's the restricting of the people's freedoms that causes higher rates of crime.
i always found it funny that people think a criminal is going to care if its illegal for or not for him to posses a gun
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