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An 8-year-old Arizona boy suspected in the deaths of his father and another man can be heard in a videotape of his police interview telling officers that he shot both men after he came home from school.

Vincent Romero and Tim Romans were found dead in Romero's home in St. Johns, Arizona.

The boy, sitting cross-legged in an overstuffed armchair, initially denied involvement in the shootings but later said he shot his already wounded father "because he was suffering."

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The boy is charged with killing his father, Vincent Romero, 29, along with Tim Romans, 39, a man who rented a room in Romero's home in St. Johns, Arizona. Police have said the boy confessed to shooting the men with a .22-caliber handgun.

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Police said last week they were attempting to discern a motive in the slayings.
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Tragic and wierd...
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I've been following this one, it's very very weird.
There have been some unsubstanciated reports of abuse and such that led to this, but I dont think we're going to know much more for a while.
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News said he was questioned without counsel or a guardian present.
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News said he was questioned without counsel or a guardian present.
Yeah, I wonder why.



See, cuz he killed his dad?



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A dad is not usually called a "guardian". Mom lives in another state. At any rate, he's changed his story.
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Maybe the government will bail him out too
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Thats just messed up. It certainly comes over like there had to be some abuse going on, also a bit worrying that the kid had access to a firearm in the first place.

It will be quite interesting to see what comes up, and I think his story will probably change a few times, traumatic event like that (whether he did it or not) is going to mess with his head.
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He certainly deserves a good spanking!
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Have any of you guys ever been interrogated by law officials? especially when you were under 12 years old.
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News said he was questioned without counsel or a guardian present.
and that is why his confession will be thrown out
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and that is why his confession will be thrown out
For sure, but on the other hand, how reliable is a potentially traumatized 8-year old kid's testimony anyway?

This is all just so bizarre.
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[quote]Have any of you guys ever been interrogated by law officials? especially when you were under 12 years old./QUOTE]

not about anything serious, but I was about that age when I saw a classmate throwing .45 bullets at the ground as hard as he could. I picked up the shells and rode my bike to the police station. told them where I found them ect.... about 1-1/2 later they called my Mom to pick me up....

Questioning this Kid without a child advocate there is wrong and should be thrown out.

A good friend of mine is a cop in Chicago, his partner was shot & killed less than two feet away from him. It resulted in a somewhat famous case because the shooter was NOT convicted.

It is because of injustice on both side of the ledger that the system is not trusted

this case is tragic, in everyway
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Yeah, I wonder why.



See, cuz he killed his dad?



No, not funny? Fair enough.
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There wasn't any sort of child representative because the police thought they were getting a victim's report at first.
maybe that still requires the presence of an advocate.
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The dad is an idiot for leaving his handgun where the kid could get at it.
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The dad is an idiot for leaving his handgun where the kid could get at it.
Yeah, pretty much.
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Procedural things aside, it is a morbidly interesting story. I wondered about the abuse.

St. Johns is a one horse town. I have driven through it and if you blink, you literally miss half the town. Founded by some religious group.

Dunno if the kid is capable of telling the story right now. Tragic whatever the outcome.
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Have any of you guys ever been interrogated by law officials? especially when you were under 12 years old.
When I was 13 if that counts.
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When I was 13 if that counts.

Yes it does.

Law official interrogations are not to be taken serious is most cases.

People seem to not realize that the police do like to use deceptive means to get most confessions.
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Any form of interrogation should be taken serious in every case according to law professor James Duane. Watch his entire vid on it. They even have a police interrogator speak in the second half of the vid. http://www.regent.edu/admin/media/schlaw/LawPreview/
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