Adolf Hitler 1889 - 1960's?

[MIJ-VI]

Nazi Expert: 'I Have Proof Hitler Died In 1960s'

Before It's News

Romero: "On what basis do you claim that Hitler was in Spain after leaving his Berlin bunker?"

Basti: "I was able to confirm the presence of Hitler in Spain thanks to a—now elderly—Jesuit priest, whose family members were friends of the Nazi leader. And I have witnesses that allude to meetings he had with his entourage at the place where they stayed in Cantabria."



Mr. and Mrs Hitler in Spain before voyage to Patagonia

Romero: "How did your book impact the official story of Hitler’s death?"

Basti: "Despite the recent investigations that proved that Hitler’s remains at the Kremlin in Russia did not belong to him, most Russians have always rejected the theory that he escaped. The same applies to the nations involved in the war."

“The U.S. has just reclassified [under national security auspices] for 20 [more] years all official material related to this story, and when that deadline is met, it will probably be reclassified."

“The British reclassified all related documentation for 60 more years. The researchers cannot access that information."

My $0.02? The alleged reclassification likely has something to do with skeletons related to Operation Paperclip (and other similar operations) and the roles that international finance capital and a number of well-known corporations had in aiding Hitler's (and Mussolini’s) rise to power.

Since 'follow the money' is SOP with any skullduggery, the documentary Banking With Hitler is worth checking out.

Going back as far as 1942 multiple so-called Rat Lines (escape routes) were quietly established which, at war's end, allowed NAZI big shots & mid-level thugs to scatter to nations around the world (even to Canada) where they were initially embraced by conniving authorities as useful assets against the Soviet Union.

Thus it is more than possible that Hitler (and an entourage) may have escaped Berlin in 1945. He certainly had the connections and access to enough gold, jewels and foreign currency to do so.

[Dr. Cheese]

It would be interesting if Hitler lived until the 1960s, but that's about it. I find it hard to believe General Franco would have let him stay in Spain. To have been found to be sheltering Hitler would have been a hell of a hit for his regime, and I don't think he would have risked it.

[Muaguana]

The source: Before It's News, People Powered News. And people wonder why bloggers aren't considered to be "proper" journalists...

[nickbass79]

If Hitler was in hiding(if this pic is of him after his supposed death), why would he keep his mustache. That's a dead giveaway!

[MIJ-VI]

Originally Posted by Muaguana

The source: Before It's News, People Powered News. And people wonder why bloggers aren't considered to be "proper" journalists...

If you had read the article then you'd have noticed...

The Source: Amazon.com: El exilio de Hitler / Hitler's Exile: Las pruebas de la fuga del fuhre a a la Argentina (Spanish Edition) (9789500731898): Abel Basti: Books

The interview with the book's author: "Hitler huyó a la Patagonia en un submarino que zarpó desde Vigo" - Faro de Vigo

As for bloggers not being "proper" journalists?

Media Reform Information Center

“In 1983, 50 corporations controlled the vast majority of all news media in the U.S… …In 2004, Bagdikian’s revised and expanded book, The New Media Monopoly, shows that only 5 huge corporations — Time Warner, Disney, Murdoch’s News Corporation, Bertelsmann of Germany, and Viacom (formerly CBS) — now control most of the media industry in the U.S. General Electric’s NBC is a close sixth.”

Congressional Record: JP Morgan & Co purchased all major media for propaganda: 1917. And now...? - Los Angeles LA County Nonpartisan | Examiner.com

Prostitution "journalism": Yup, mainstream media is intentional propaganda. Accept the evidence - Los Angeles LA County Nonpartisan | Examiner.com

Behind Big News: Propaganda and the CFR-Full Length Documentary - YouTube

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War On Journalism(Full) Video

OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD Part 1

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Quite unlikely.

[Handyman]

I find it hard to take that article seriously. The picture you've attached in the original post is Eva Braun and Hitler at the Berchtesgaden retreat circa 1940. Its a rather well known photograph, in fact.

[OldDog52]

I just love conspiracy theories. And Internet bloggers.

[ADbassman]

"Water secret takes fluoride out of water."


What? Sorry I was distracted by the millions of ads on the page.

[basstotheface]

Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

It would be interesting if Hitler lived until the 1960s, but that's about it. I find it hard to believe General Franco would have let him stay in Spain. To have been found to be sheltering Hitler would have been a hell of a hit for his regime, and I don't think he would have risked it.

+1

I was thinking the same thing. Not that Hitler couldn't have lived longer than we are lead to believe but there is no way he would have been in Spain.

[TheFantod]

By 1945, Hitler was on his way out anyway with Parkinson's. Had he, by some remarkable streak of luck, both escaped and survived, he wouldn't have lasted long. Even if he hadn't had Parkinson's, what marbles he had left had finally rolled away completely.

To suggest Franco would have sheltered him is ludicrous. Spain was in shambles after the Spanish Civil War. Franco refused to send any help to Hitler, even after Hitler had pretty much put Franco in power personally. Hitler distrusted and later lambasted Franco.

At the end, Hitler had lost all hope and instructed the destruction of Germany from the inside. He ordered gas mains blown up, water mains shut down, et. al. Fortunately, Speer did none of this.

Anyway, there is way too much evidence for the truth. Hitler & Eva committed suicide, rather than be captured by the Russians.

[Simo98]

Originally Posted by Muaguana

The source: Before It's News, People Powered News. And people wonder why bloggers aren't considered to be "proper" journalists...

Er.. and do you think "Proper" journalists have any sort of factual information behind what they publish?

I mean, have you watched the news?

[rr5025]

Wow this makes me laugh.

[jmattbassplaya]

While I don't take the article seriously, I don't see it unlikely. The Russian's got to his body first, and they weren't the most trustworthy of folks during that time period.

[Muaguana]

Originally Posted by MIJ-VI

If you had read the article then you'd have noticed...

The Source: Amazon.com: El exilio de Hitler / Hitler's Exile: Las pruebas de la fuga del fuhre a a la Argentina (Spanish Edition) (9789500731898): Abel Basti: Books

The interview with the book's author: "Hitler huyó a la Patagonia en un submarino que zarpó desde Vigo" - Faro de Vigo

As for bloggers not being "proper" journalists?

Media Reform Information Center

“In 1983, 50 corporations controlled the vast majority of all news media in the U.S… …In 2004, Bagdikian’s revised and expanded book, The New Media Monopoly, shows that only 5 huge corporations — Time Warner, Disney, Murdoch’s News Corporation, Bertelsmann of Germany, and Viacom (formerly CBS) — now control most of the media industry in the U.S. General Electric’s NBC is a close sixth.”

Congressional Record: JP Morgan & Co purchased all major media for propaganda: 1917. And now...? - Los Angeles LA County Nonpartisan | Examiner.com

Prostitution "journalism": Yup, mainstream media is intentional propaganda. Accept the evidence - Los Angeles LA County Nonpartisan | Examiner.com

Behind Big News: Propaganda and the CFR-Full Length Documentary - YouTube

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War On Journalism(Full) Video

OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD Part 1

You know what's funny? You're putting more effort into verifying the validity of that article than the website you quoted - if you haven't noticed, they rate the credibility of articles based on a reader's poll at the top of the page on whether they "think" the article is fact or not. Yeah, I'm really going to take you seriously now that you've posted a spatter of random links about media corruption - which I'm already fully aware of - in a poor attempt to make your article look credible.

Furthermore, the fact that you seem incapable of forming your own thoughts on this matter and instead choose to press your point through an assortment of links retrieved during a 5-minute Google search makes me wonder how you expect anyone to take you seriously, for that matter. So you've shown that you can copy and paste URL's... bravo, I guess?

Out of curiosity, I did a little research on the author of the article referenced (which was categorized under "conspiracy theory"), and found out that his claim to fame was being a contributor to the website Helium - he joined in August 2009. The contributor profile on Before it's News was copied verbatim from his Helium biography (without the proper formatting.) Helium states "At Helium, we believe that everyone can contribute what they know to share with millions of readers around the globe." So really, you don't need impressive credentials (or, you know, facts) to write for them. Fantastic.

Here's a sample of Terrance Aym's other works on BIN: "Top NASA Shuttle Astronaut: Aliens Are Real...I Guarantee It!", "Haunting Face Of Ghost Sailor Appears At AZ Memorial", "Mad doctors create cyborgian bionic brain", "Why You Should Sell Everything Now And Live In A Tree", and "Claim: Giant UFO Base Under Lake Erie". Sounds like a real winner. Or a crackpot, either one.

His biography on Helium is filled with vague statements such as "Aym has appeared as a guest on talk radio across the US and internationally. His articles have been read, discussed and sometimes heatedly debated by millions" lacking any specific details or dates making them pretty much useless in judging his merits as an author.

I'll let TB decide if the author is worth giving any credence in this matter.

[Munjibunga]

Originally Posted by MIJ-VI

... And I have witnesses that allude to meetings he had with his entourage ...

Well, that pretty much convinces me. It's decisive and unequivocal.

[Muaguana]

Originally Posted by Simo98

Er.. and do you think "Proper" journalists have any sort of factual information behind what they publish?

I mean, have you watched the news?

Actually, no; television news programs are, for the most part, soap operas with better production value. There are reporters on air that do have journalistic integrity, but they're vastly outnumbered by the hacks who change the substance of their reporting based on how it will appeal to the station's demographics. Local newspapers are a safer bet, but I try to fact check anything I read that contains elements of bias or agenda (which is obviously easier said than done).

In short, yes, proper journalists do have factual information behind what they publish. You just need to find out who the proper journalists are.

[MEKer]

Yeah, that photo is pretty famous. What a joke to claim it is just before they moved to Patagonia. OMG, that's stupid. And love his claim that the remains the Russians spirited away were debunked as not his. Wow. Someone is making up some fantasy history here. Pathetic anyone takes it seriously.

BTW, interesting note : William Shirer has in his absolutely fascinating book "BERLIN DIARY 1934-1941. (He wrote that wonderfully comprehensive book THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH also.) Anyway, Shirer, who covered the regime for CBS for those years, talks about Adolf suffering from "meteorism", which is uncontrollable flatulence, by which he sometimes embarrassed himself. Gives the phrase "suck it up" new meaning as I doubt if anyone ever pointed at him and laughed aloud. I still laugh my butt off about that. Jeeeezzzz!

[MakiSupaStar]

This reads like a chain letter.

[Munjibunga]

Originally Posted by MEKer

Yeah, that photo is pretty famous. What a joke to claim it is just before they moved to Patagonia. OMG, that's stupid. And love his claim that the remains the Russians spirited away were debunked as not his. Wow. Someone is making up some fantasy history here. Pathetic anyone takes it seriously.

BTW, interesting note : William Shirer has in his absolutely fascinating book "BERLIN DIARY 1934-1941. (He wrote that wonderfully comprehensive book THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH also.) Anyway, Shirer, who covered the regime for CBS for those years, talks about Adolf suffering from "meteorism", which is uncontrollable flatulence, by which he sometimes embarrassed himself. Gives the phrase "suck it up" new meaning as I doubt if anyone ever pointed at him and laughed aloud. I still laugh my butt off about that. Jeeeezzzz!

Whoa! What a great idea for one of those Hitler parodies on YouTube. Kind of "Hitler meets farting preacher" ... you know, a Robert Tilton sort of thing.

<edit> Oops! I should've known ... it's been done.