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11-28-2012, 09:47 PM
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11-28-2012, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Misfit 4. The world is full of music "snobs" who regard the late 60's as the pinnicle of music (popular music). So, the best of that era is by default the best ever. i.e. Jimi Hendrix | Yup, I'm 59 and that's pretty much the way it is.
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11-28-2012, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Strat-Mangler I understand how you feel, but what good does it do to get frustrated with this stuff? If good stuff comes out, great! If not, just do what I do and enjoy all the great music that is already out. Hell, his output was insane considering his pro music career lastest a meager number of years.
Enjoy, forget about it... And give the album a chance. You might be pleasantly surprised. Who knows? | I'm a huge fan, I saw The Experience Band of Gypsies and ran into Jimi walking down this street in the village once.
My theory on unreleased material. If it was that good it would have been released shortly after it was recorded.
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11-28-2012, 09:57 PM
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11-28-2012, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mellowinman I have still not heard one guitarist that could "run circles" around Jimi Hendrix.
I've heard a few almost as good, but that's about it.
What were his faults, as a player?
The only credible person I've ever run across that didn't think Jimi Hendrix was the greatest guitarist of all time would be: JIMI HENDRIX. | He was the most humble guy you could ever meet. Funny as hell too.
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11-28-2012, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck norriss | I don't believe Bob played lead guitar. My neighbor and friend from grade school through high school Albert Anderson played lead guitar.
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11-28-2012, 10:05 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oregon | | Gosh really? Those guitarist that play a bunch of random crap really fast like yngwie malmsteen are just tools, and annoying at that. Jimi had alot of soul , he wrote most of all those classics and also sung while playing that stuff. There wasnt anyone before him doing it that way he came up with it.
Jimi is an Original.
Ah ha i found the video, saw this awhile ago , its obvious he is very humble and doesnt think he is that great. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gwLQAuHJv8
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11-28-2012, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by nutdog Jimi isn't the best guitar player because he didn't play the guitar. The guitar was an extension of his mind, body and soul. Very, very few people like that. | Yeah something just "clicked " something that doesn't happen with most of us.
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11-29-2012, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Strat-Mangler  I understand how you feel, but what good does it do to get frustrated with this stuff? If good stuff comes out, great! If not, just do what I do and enjoy all the great music that is already out. Hell, his output was insane considering his pro music career lastest a meager number of years.
Enjoy, forget about it... And give the album a chance. You might be pleasantly surprised. Who knows? | I have a feeling this will be the last of the studio material they'll ever release. I'm sure it will appeal to some and that's fine. From my perspective, it does look like they're scraping the bottom of the barrel. But there will be people out there who will be interested in it I'm sure. And there is nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, some of those people are collectors who know everything there is to know about Hendrix's songs, including outtakes, bootlegs, etc. I never bother with any of that and just buy what's officially released. So, in that respect I'm just more of a regular fan instead of a completist who has to have everything. I do, however, have a feeling that Hendrix himself would object to some of the stuff that has been released and may be released in the future because he was definitely a perfectionist. |
11-29-2012, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bluewine He was the most humble guy you could ever meet. Funny as hell too.
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Humble, great sense of humor, and one of the most amazing guitarists of all time. This is the way I look at Hendrix, too. |
11-29-2012, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by nutdog Jimi isn't the best guitar player because he didn't play the guitar. The guitar was an extension of his mind, body and soul. Very, very few people like that. | That's absolutely the best expression of that idea that I've ever seen.
When I listen to Hendrix, the guitar disappears. It would be a huge shame if he goes down in history merely as "The Best Guitarist."
~One of a handful of the greatest conceptual artists and visionaries of the 20th century (any medium)?: YES
~Possessor of a soulfulness and passion so tangible it was astounding?: YES
~Grandmaster and blender of both ancient (country blues) and futuristic (avant-garde/noise/free/science fiction) worlds?: YES
~The ultimate cross-over artist: a chitlin' circuit R&B guy who nonetheless loved Bob Dylan, as well as British Invasion rock?: YES
~ Singer/songwriter equally adept at pop hits ("Foxey Lady") and "1983"-style sound paintings?: YES
~ Unparalleled interpreter (see: "Wild Thing", "Like a Rolling Stone", "Hey Joe", "All Along the Watchtower")?: YES
That's the kind of stuff to think about when it comes to Jimi Hendrix-- not whether he could wiggle his digits as quickly as Satriani, Vai, McLaughlin, Django, et al.
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11-29-2012, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lonesomedave but...John McGlaughlin really was (is?) the best electric guitarist of all time...if you disagree....sc**w you... | It's McLaughlin.
You may not have been listening closely to his playing. 
He was killing it with Tony Williams, then Miles and a little light weight after that. I love his Gil Evans acoustic work.
Each of us is an individual so we can be only as good at being ourselves as we can be. My point is unless we are comparing something like powerlifting no one can be better than anyone else. Music is not a competitive exercise.
So my comparisons are of John's own work. |
11-29-2012, 09:48 AM
|  | Dangerous User | | Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Fort Wayne, IN | | | The reason I consider Jimi "the best" is simply that before him, no one played like that, and after him, the only time anyone came close to playing like that was when they were imitating him.
His musicality, soulfulness, and poetic, inspired sounds really speak to me. Every time someone tries to point me to someone "better," I hear songs I don't need to hear again.
"Best" is subjective in music.
And a lot of rock fans still seem to think the "best" would be Jimi Hendrix.
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11-29-2012, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by chadds It's McLaughlin.
You may not have been listening closely to his playing.
He was killing it with Tony Williams, then Miles and a little light weight after that. I love his Gil Evans acoustic work.
Each of us is an individual so we can be only as good at being ourselves as we can be. My point is unless we are comparing something like powerlifting no one can be better than anyone else. Music is not a competitive exercise.
So my comparisons are of John's own work. | spelling correction noted!
I am not sure what your second point was referring to, but apparently we agree he was a total monster.
listen to Bitch's Brew if you want to hear his amazing work with Miles.
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11-29-2012, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Lonesomedave but...John McGlaughlin really was (is?) the best electric guitarist of all time...if you disagree....sc**w you... | I see you feel strongly about this .
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11-29-2012, 02:01 PM
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An interview with Kathy Etchingham. She has moved to Australia now. You do have to scroll down and not listen to the first minute of a gold medalist like I did. I've read Kathy's book and liked it. Some seem to be critical of her. Maybe because she talks about herself too much and not enough about Hendrix? The guy interviewing her doesn't really know too much about some things. He asked who Noel Redding was, etc. But it's a good interview. |
11-29-2012, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonesomedave
spelling correction noted!
I am not sure what your second point was referring to, but apparently we agree he was a total monster.
listen to Bitch's Brew if you want to hear his amazing work with Miles.
| He is a monster. I saw him with Tony Williams and missed the late set with Miles at the Cellar Door. Saw him with Mahavishnu. I own nearly every one of his albums but surprisingly I find him
very moving then not. It's all preference.
The real subject is that as much as I love Noel Redding's playing, Jimi was one serious bassist! |
11-29-2012, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chadds He is a monster. I saw him with Tony Williams and missed the late set with Miles at the Cellar Door. Saw him with Mahavishnu. I own nearly every one of his albums but surprisingly I find him
very moving then not. It's all preference.
The real subject is that as much as I love Noel Redding's playing, Jimi was one serious bassist! | You've got the most eclectic influences and teachers list I've ever seen. Excellent. |
11-29-2012, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonesomedave
spelling correction noted!
I am not sure what your second point was referring to, but apparently we agree he was a total monster.
listen to Bitch's Brew if you want to hear his amazing work with Miles.
| There was a McLaughlin article in guitar player mag 100 years ago. He mentioned this three volume control combo called a Mesa Boogie MKI.
I called Randy the owner of Mesa and asked him if it would be good for bass. He said no. He then said he had an idea for a bass amp that would take care of business.
Later it came out as the 400.
Now back to Jimi !!!!! |
11-29-2012, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dougjwray When I listen to Hendrix, the guitar disappears. It would be a huge shame if he goes down in history merely as "The Best Guitarist."
~One of a handful of the greatest conceptual artists and visionaries of the 20th century (any medium)?: YES
~Possessor of a soulfulness and passion so tangible it was astounding?: YES
~Grandmaster and blender of both ancient (country blues) and futuristic (avant-garde/noise/free/science fiction) worlds?: YES
~The ultimate cross-over artist: a chitlin' circuit R&B guy who nonetheless loved Bob Dylan, as well as British Invasion rock?: YES
~ Singer/songwriter equally adept at pop hits ("Foxey Lady") and "1983"-style sound paintings?: YES
~ Unparalleled interpreter (see: "Wild Thing", "Like a Rolling Stone", "Hey Joe", "All Along the Watchtower")?: YES
That's the kind of stuff to think about when it comes to Jimi Hendrix-- not whether he could wiggle his digits as quickly as Satriani, Vai, McLaughlin, Django, et al. | Well put!
Also, there are 16mm prints of the film Woodstock circulating the country right now for the 70 anniversary of Jimi's birth. It is playing in a lot of different cities tonight and on Tuesday.
Here is a link if you are interested: http://social.entertainment.msn.com/...21d103&ref=bfv | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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