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Old 10-29-2010, 12:10 PM
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Anyone a bartender? I want to be.

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I have been collecting unemployment for about a month now. Im fed up. I want to get back into something, but I dont just want another job. I want something I can stick with. Im 20 years old and will 21 in a month. I've worked in retail, cleaned kitchens, fixed guitars, all sorts of stuff. My ultimate goal is to open a guitar shop, but with that being a ways away, I want something to get me along until then.

Ive been looking into getting into bartending. Good money, a good way to network, it seems like it could be a good idea. Does anyone do this? Any tips to get into something like that? I found a bartending school in Detroit, about an hour drive from me, and several online certifications. The online ones scare me, Id rather gets hands on and know I am actually getting somewhere.

Anyone able to give me some advice?
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:23 PM
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The 2 biggest skills needed that can't be learned are a good memory and friendly demeanor. If you have both of these, I could see bartending as a good fit for you. Other than that, it's measurement accuracy with your mixes and the ability to keep up with a fast pace. I've had friends go to bartending school, but never found out if they got jobs in the field. But I'd say you're taking a step in the right direction.
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When you're working a bar, after you get hired they'll be coaching and training you up, so you'll get plenty of hands on.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:25 PM
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There's one bartender at a place we play that is a real joy to watch in action. I've never seen anyone with the amount of hustle this guy has. I think he's been tending bar for something like 30 years, and he just flies behind the bar. I get a kick out of watching him work when the line to the bar is five deep and he's just buried.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:28 PM
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The bartenders I know all just applied to get a job. Some of them went to bartending school, said it didn't do much for them that they didn't get in the job training.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:29 PM
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:32 PM
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:50 PM
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Try to get a job as a bar back.
Or get started at a restaurant. Usually, you can make the move from server to bartender after a little while if you display some hustle and a good memory. Once you have some bar tending experience on your resume then you can look for more profitable opportunities.

I did this for a few years after college until my engineering career got going. It's hard work and long hours on your feet, but the pay is pretty good.
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Bartending School always seems kind of scammy to me.
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:16 PM
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Bartending School always seems kind of scammy to me.
I know several people who have gone and I don't know anyone who got a bartending job out of it.
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:16 PM
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My only bartender experience has been at home parties, but these are some things that would make sense to me if I was going down that road...
- Get familiar with a lot of the classic drinks and how to make them properly (ingredients, rations, techniques). Pouring a beer or making a gin and tonic is easy, but I find it irritating when a bartender has to look up in a book - or worse, ask the customer - how to make a failrly common cocktail.
- Have a specialty or some in-depth knowledge about something - martinis, wine, beer, scotch, bourbon...
- Nothing is worse than a bartender with a bad attitude. Even if you feel like crap, fake it.

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Old 10-29-2010, 01:18 PM
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My only bartender experience has been at home parties, but these are some things that would make sense to if I was going down that road...
- Get familiar with a lot of the classic drinks and how to make them properly (ingredients, rations, techniques). Pouring a beer or making a gin and tonic is easy, but I find it irritating when a bartender has to look up in a book - or worse, ask the customer - how to make a failrly common cocktail.
- Have a specialty or some in-depth knowledge about something - martinis, wine, beer, scotch, bourbon...
Good advice. You're going to need to do a good bit of drinking . . . as research . . . once you turn 21.
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Bartending School always seems kind of scammy to me.
My wife went to one; after going out for a bit looking for work, she found they didn't give a poo about the bartender class. They all wanted experience as a waitress and/or a barback. She said the class was only good for fun, but not worth the money as it won't help much as far as getting a job is concerned.
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:32 PM
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I've bartended, managed, cooked, dishwashed, prepped in the kitchen, and lived in a zoo one summer for some extra cash.

Do not waste your money with bartending school unless you have extra money, already have a job and feel like driving an hour to detroit to learn something you could learn by either going to a bar and drinking or reading in a book.

I never hired people who went to bartending school. Learning drinks is the easy part. Knowing how to work in the service industry is a whole nother animal that does not live in a zoo you can pay money to see.

Best way-go to the library, its the weird brick building with no cars parked in the parking lot. Check out a book on drinks, buy the booze, make drinks and have your friends taste them. Do this on your nights off as a bar back. 6 months to a year or so of bar backing( i say six months b/c i don't know you) you should get promoted. If you don't, return the book and come back to TB for another job selection.

Any other questions I'll be happy to answer.

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I've bartended, managed, cooked, dishwashed, prepped in the kitchen, and lived in a zoo one summer for some extra cash.

Do not waste your money with bartending school unless you have extra money, already have a job and feel like driving an hour to detroit to learn something you could learn by either going to a bar and drinking or reading in a book.

I never hired people who went to bartending school. Learning drinks is the easy part. Knowing how to work in the service industry is a whole nother animal that does not live in a zoo you can pay money to see.

Best way-go to the library, its the weird brick building with no cars parked in the parking lot. Check out a book on drinks, buy the booze, make drinks and have your friends taste them. Do this on your nights off as a bar back. 6 months to a year or so of bar backing( i say six months b/c i don't know you) you should get promoted. If you don't, return the book and come back to TB for another job selection.

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Old 10-29-2010, 01:38 PM
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Hard to argue with experienced advice.
I disagree.
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Old 10-29-2010, 02:24 PM
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No, you don't.
Hmmm...

After exstensive research into the matter, yes, I don't. I always argue with myself.
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I've bartended, managed, cooked, dishwashed, prepped in the kitchen, and lived in a zoo one summer for some extra cash.

Do not waste your money with bartending school unless you have extra money, already have a job and feel like driving an hour to detroit to learn something you could learn by either going to a bar and drinking or reading in a book.

I never hired people who went to bartending school. Learning drinks is the easy part. Knowing how to work in the service industry is a whole nother animal that does not live in a zoo you can pay money to see.

Best way-go to the library, its the weird brick building with no cars parked in the parking lot. Check out a book on drinks, buy the booze, make drinks and have your friends taste them. Do this on your nights off as a bar back. 6 months to a year or so of bar backing( i say six months b/c i don't know you) you should get promoted. If you don't, return the book and come back to TB for another job selection.

Any other questions I'll be happy to answer.

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I've bartended, managed, cooked, dishwashed, prepped in the kitchen, and lived in a zoo one summer for some extra cash.

Do not waste your money with bartending school unless you have extra money, already have a job and feel like driving an hour to detroit to learn something you could learn by either going to a bar and drinking or reading in a book.

I never hired people who went to bartending school. Learning drinks is the easy part. Knowing how to work in the service industry is a whole nother animal that does not live in a zoo you can pay money to see.

Best way-go to the library, its the weird brick building with no cars parked in the parking lot. Check out a book on drinks, buy the booze, make drinks and have your friends taste them. Do this on your nights off as a bar back. 6 months to a year or so of bar backing( i say six months b/c i don't know you) you should get promoted. If you don't, return the book and come back to TB for another job selection.

Any other questions I'll be happy to answer.

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