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Old 08-18-2010, 01:25 AM
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I have a problem with my car... it still drives, but is making a roaring/grinding noise from the front of the car, sounds like the wheel area. The faster I go, the louder it gets, and it's a horrible noise... driving me crazy!

It's definitely not coming from the engine. I've also had the wheel bearings done, brakes checked, suspension checked...

I don't think there's a great deal left on the clutch but don't think that's the problem as it's only when I'm driving over about 25-30mph.

Any suggestions as to what it could be? and if it's a safety issue?

I can't afford to take it to the garage until next week

Appreciate any advice, thanks
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If you have had everything checked, its probably something stupid, like the mudguard has cracked and as you drive faster it gets pushed into your wheel.

A friend of mine had that happen, took him ages to figure out what the hell was wrong with it.
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Lol oh dear... I'll check that later
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Grinding from the wheel area makes me think either a bearing or CV joint (on a front wheel drive) is knackered.
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Roaring sound usually means a bad wheel bearing. Do you know what was done to the wheel bearings? were they just repacked with grease or replaced? A bad CV joint could do that too. I once had a plastic bottle stuck between my tire and wheel well which made a horrible roaring sound.
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Grinding from the wheel area makes me think either a bearing or CV joint (on a front wheel drive) is knackered.
I agree... sounds like a CV joint, if it's a FWD. And it should not really be driven IMO. You may damage an axle. Expect a nice plucking of cash.
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Oh ****.

When the wheel bearings were done, the mechanic told me he replaced them. He's pretty good and highly regarded round these parts (and he's a friend of my partners) so I'm sure he would give me the truth.

What's a CV joint?
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Oh ****.

When the wheel bearings were done, the mechanic told me he replaced them. He's pretty good and highly regarded round these parts (and he's a friend of my partners) so I'm sure he would give me the truth.

What's a CV joint?
From my.. limited.. understanding.

Erm, One part twists, goes into the CV Joint, which then twists the other part that sticks out at a different angle that goes into it. Transfers the power into your wheels.

Wikipedia can probably explain it better, I'm not great with cars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant-velocity_joint
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a bearing or CV joint sounds about right..is the noise alwaýs there?? does it get worse on full stearing lock???.its also not unrealstic to say that the mechanic might have only changed one side,and now the other has gone..
could be as simple as a stone caught somewhere or a dry bearing,power washers/steamcleaners are known for blasting out the lube or grease..bring it back to him and explain if he is as good as you say it wont be an issue,most mechanics i know are very very particular about their work..if its a bad grinding noise something is not right and will get worse and could be dangerous without stating the obvious..
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its also not unrealstic to say that the mechanic might have only changed one side,and now the other has gone..
Not only that, but I damaged a bearing once just by hitting a huge pothole. It went from fine to being completely messed up in a flash. From memory it was relatively new as well. Low profile tyres meant the shock just went right through the wheel, I guess?

**** happens, unfortunately.
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I'd check the bearings/CV-joints and brake pads first. Easy to do if You lift one tire at a time up. Be sure to support the vehicle with a stand, not just the jack.

If it's a FWD, since one wheel will lock one pinion on the differential causing it to spin, any problems with the differential, or anything exept the transmission main shaft will be heard.

Since You don't say whether the sound follows the engine speed or the wheel speed, or if the sound changes when You depress the clutch pedal, it's really hard to pinpoint the possible cause from the drive-train.

You say that the clutch is almost gone. Broken thrust bearing or clutch assembly can make quite a sound under load.

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Sounds like a wheel bearing to me. CV joints make a clicking sound upon turns when they're bad, generally they remain quiet in a straight line
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another vote for wheel bearing... what you are describing is what my Neon was doing last year and it ended up being the bearing.
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What kind of car do you have?
It's a peugeot 106 diesel (quite old, 1995)

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I'd check the bearings/CV-joints and brake pads first. Easy to do if You lift one tire at a time up. Be sure to support the vehicle with a stand, not just the jack.

If it's a FWD, since one wheel will lock one pinion on the differential causing it to spin, any problems with the differential, or anything exept the transmission main shaft will be heard.

Since You don't say whether the sound follows the engine speed or the wheel speed, or if the sound changes when You depress the clutch pedal, it's really hard to pinpoint the possible cause from the drive-train.

You say that the clutch is almost gone. Broken thrust bearing or clutch assembly can make quite a sound under load.

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Eeeek... I think I'd need to take it to a garage for that. I have a jack but I've never used it haha!

It is a front wheel drive

The sound follows the wheel speed, not the engine speed. Depressing the clutch doesn't make any difference to the noise.

When I change gear the car does jolt a bit, no matter what speed, which makes me wonder if it's a problem with the clutch/gearbox...

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another vote for wheel bearing... what you are describing is what my Neon was doing last year and it ended up being the bearing.
I initially thought it was a wheel bearing, but I've had them all checked - one on the front and one on the back were replaced and the other two were fine.

The noise is worse than ever though. But there's no clicking sound when driving. However, when I turn the wheel to full lock (like when I'm parking or doing a 3 point turn) I do hear a weird noise - it's hard to describe but it's like a deep clicking/crunching (?)
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It's a peugeot 106 diesel (quite old, 1995)



Eeeek... I think I'd need to take it to a garage for that. I have a jack but I've never used it haha!

It is a front wheel drive

The sound follows the wheel speed, not the engine speed. Depressing the clutch doesn't make any difference to the noise.

When I change gear the car does jolt a bit, no matter what speed, which makes me wonder if it's a problem with the clutch/gearbox...





I initially thought it was a wheel bearing, but I've had them all checked - one on the front and one on the back were replaced and the other two were fine.

The noise is worse than ever though. But there's no clicking sound when driving. However, when I turn the wheel to full lock (like when I'm parking or doing a 3 point turn) I do hear a weird noise - it's hard to describe but it's like a deep clicking/crunching (?)
still sounds like a cv boot joint and a bearing to me..i think you should look at a different garage..is there any change is the stearing?is it smooth as normal..without hearing it or having a look its very hard to say..could be one of a million things,stearing rack,bearings,cv joins,brakes,diff..just off the top of my head..change garage and take no chances,its just to dangerous if you dont know whats wrong..
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Is there wobble/vibration as well as noise, especially at one particular road speed? (typically but not always in the 80-100km/hr range). If so, that's often a sign of wheel bearing problems.
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Wheel bearings don't need to be loose to be noisey.
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Wheel bearings don't need to be loose to be noisey.
Really? I didn't know that. Is there anything that can be done about the noise if that is the case here?
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:02 AM
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Replace the bearings or turn the radio up.
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