Article that will make you angry

[colcifer]

But you should read anyway: The Child Cases: Guilty Until Proved Innocent : NPR

[bassbrad]

Originally Posted by colcifer

But you should read anyway: The Child Cases: Guilty Until Proved Innocent : NPR

It's a sad fact and not just in child death cases but also charges of sexual and physical abuse cases as well.

[john grey]

I think it's very important that we recognize that issues like this exist. I also believe that we should be everything applicable to find and act upon solutions to abuse. However there comes a time when filling oneself with the misery of the world become almost self-defeating; in that it's by-product (for many) is a feeling of helplessness, anger, depression, & anxiety.

Articles like these are unfortunately very common.
However I think it's extremely important not to immerse oneself in the negative and ugliness of the world on a continuum.
Often the decency, beauty, and compassion in the world is overshadowed by the depth of pain and it's reach.

It's equally important never to shut off or ignore the ugly side of life.
However as mature adults we know that often media agenda is to sell newspaper, get viewers (for television or radio), and to maintain viewership. Thus we have come to see the "if it bleeds, it leads" concept of news cycles and the reporter thrusting the microphone in the face of the victim's relatives & similar invasions of privacy.

Occasionally we can even forget that there are decent and wonderful things that people do for each other. There are daily agendas of tenderness and Good that also happen around the world.
I believe it's vital that we allow a place in our hearts & daily awareness for those beautiful things. We can easily loose sight of all the positive things that take place. When that happens we may loose sight of the complexity that is human nature & a greater good that can also be found amongst the sordid & ugly world that can be "pre-packaged" for a negative sort of voyeurism - which, after a point does little good for a search for self-betterment.

[Absentia]

This is where I usually say something along the lines of taking someone out behind the prison and blowing their brains out as it'll be a lot cheaper and more effective than the current system's practices. Or say some thing about how we need to implement breeding licenses, but what's the point.

[uethanian]

Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

"A constellation of bruises stretched across her pale skin. CT scans showed blood pooling on her brain and swelling. Blood was found in her..."

I got to there and had to stop reading. I really hate people sometimes. This girl deserved better. A lot better.

if you stopped reading at this point, i'm assuming you missed the whole point of the article...which is that this man may be wrongly imprisoned for life. why would he drive the girl to the emergency room if he committed the murder?

in today's world, being thrown in prison and having everything taken from you is only a matter of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. especially true if you are a man, you are guilty until proven innocent (sometimes only after many years) in the eyes of the law.

i (or anyone else reading the article) cannot say whether this man is guilty or innocent. yes, i'm usually an "assume the worse" type of person but that doesn't mean things always happen that way.

[DerHoggz]

Originally Posted by Absentia

This is where I usually say something along the lines of taking someone out behind the prison and blowing their brains out as it'll be a lot cheaper and more effective than the current system's practices. Or say some thing about how we need to implement breeding licenses, but what's the point.

So you didn't read it?

[uethanian]

Originally Posted by DerHoggz

So you didn't read it?

a bit ironic, no?

[duff beer]

Originally Posted by Absentia

This is where I usually say something along the lines of taking someone out behind the prison and blowing their brains out as it'll be a lot cheaper and more effective than the current system's practices. Or say some thing about how we need to implement breeding licenses, but what's the point.

It's probably a good idea to read the story all the way through before commenting...

[duff beer]

Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

"A constellation of bruises stretched across her pale skin. CT scans showed blood pooling on her brain and swelling. Blood was found in her..."

I got to there and had to stop reading. I really hate people sometimes. This girl deserved better. A lot better.

Read the entire story.

[tastybasslines]

This guy's story is sad, and at least the evidence is coming out now. He did not have adequate defense and he is a unique case. However, this could set off a wave of appeals and criminal releases for people claiming that the forensics expert didn't know something, etc, any technicality they can think of, when they probably have the right person most of the time. That would be sad as well to see baby abusers and killers get freed.

[jmattbassplaya]

Originally Posted by duff beer

Read the entire story.

I reread it after the last guy told me to. No reason for a . I'll admit the guy's situation is sad and I feel for him. I originally gave up reading the article at first because it was too graphic and a bit over-sensationalized in a way that made me not want to finish it if it were a hint of things to come. Personally, I don't understand why journalists need to paint that sort of picture for their readers.

[PatTheAnchor]

the parallel between the uncertified forensic pathologists and the users posting in this thread is outstanding.

[jmattbassplaya]

Originally Posted by PatTheAnchor

the parallel between the uncertified forensic pathologists and the users posting in this thread is outstanding.

Was that really necessary?

[PatTheAnchor]

Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

Was that really necessary?

well, on one hand you have doctors who thought they saw enough to draw a conclusion that bruises, lacerations on the vagina, and bleeding meant that Lopez was guilty of homicide, and then on the other you have yourself who cared to read hardly a tenth of the article and came up to a conclusion in your own head.

maybe 'outstanding' is a bad word to describe it as it offended you but I guess a more accurate description would be "evidence of short-sightedness in human thinking."

[cassanova]

Originally Posted by tastybasslines

This guy's story is sad, and at least the evidence is coming out now. He did not have adequate defense and he is a unique case. However, this could set off a wave of appeals and criminal releases for people claiming that the forensics expert didn't know something, etc, any technicality they can think of, when they probably have the right person most of the time. That would be sad as well to see baby abusers and killers get freed.

As much as I hate to say this, because I don't like seeing killers of any kind go free. If there's any type of technicality that can set them free, then they should be set free. To not do so is also wrong, because they did not follow the rules/law when trying the individual. I don't like it either, but the law is the law and those that create and enforce it, should not be allowed to break their own rules/laws when prosecuting anyone. YMMV.

As for the OP: One of the statements in the article that really irked me was this one, "The jury found him guilty," he said. "And we're defending that conviction."

Of course they are, this shows bias on the states part too. Because if there is new evidence in his favor as the article described, then the state should be willing to rethink their stance on his conviction and accept that maybe they made a mistake. I also don't like this part of it either, "Sims could refile charges and try him a second time." If new evidence can prove he did not commit the crime and the conviction is over turned, then he should not be able to be tried again.

[duff beer]

Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

I reread it after the last guy told me to. No reason for a .

Actually, there was. You made a comment about a story when it was obvious that you did not read all of it, and you were called on it. You have no one to blame but yourself.

By the way..."reread" assumes that it was read the first time. You should have said "I actually read it all the way through this time"...

[jmattbassplaya]

Originally Posted by duff beer

Actually, there was. You made a comment about a story when it was obvious that you did not read all of it, and you were called on it. You have no one to blame but yourself.

By the way..."reread" assumes that it was read the first time. You should have said "I actually read it all the way through this time"...

Whatever, man.

[TheVoiceless]

Well considering it happened in lock them up first, maybe investigate later Texas, I would not be surprised if he was an innocent man. For some reason Americans would rather convict anyone then making sure its the right person. Guess that's how the justify their existence and bloated salaries. Oh and then there is that whole for profit prisons. Like that's not a conflict of interest.