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03-04-2008, 07:35 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Southern Massachusetts | | | Audiophiles cannot tell the difference between high end cables and coathangers.
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03-04-2008, 07:38 AM
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03-04-2008, 07:54 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Southern Massachusetts | | | Ah well, another Engadget fan, my bad...
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03-04-2008, 08:49 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | And this is news...why?
I've used heavy Radio Shack zip cord-style cable for speaker runs for 40 years, and it works great. the price is right and the sound is just fine.
Monster Cable and the other high-end poseurs have built an empire on imagination and hype.
Other than that, I have no opinion on the matter. 
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03-04-2008, 08:59 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | Lol@audiophiles! |
03-04-2008, 09:02 AM
|  | Hard rockin' stay-at-home dad | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The soggy state of Oregon | | Unsurprising, but hilarious nonetheless. |
03-04-2008, 09:24 AM
| | | | Interesting. About 15 years ago in college friend of mine bought a nice receiver with a pair of cheap crap 6" speakers. He was going to replace them anyway, but I was just messing around with them one day and hooked them up with Monster cable. I was playing an audience recording of a show he did that was pretty much all mids when he walked in. He stopped in his tracks and said, "what'd you do to my recording? It sounds awesome." The cables added a lot of punch and low end to the recording. Now, it may not matter if we were playing CD's, because I messed with that too and the difference with the low end monster cable and the high end stuff - I couldn't tell. But using nice Super VHS VCR's for dubbing, there is a diffference I could see.
So, I guess in my experience, it depends.
Kind of makes you wonder though how much the average concertgoer notices things. I just read something where a guitarist doesn't like using the 3 pickup Les Pauls live because the middle pickup alters the tone. I'd understand for a studio recording, but for a live show, I wonder if anyone would notice? |
03-04-2008, 09:24 AM
| | Thor's Hammer 2.1.3beta | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South Houston, TX | | | Can't say I'm surprised. It does make me want to try out a coat hanger like that, though...
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03-04-2008, 09:30 AM
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Owner/Retailer: Jive Sound | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alexandria,VA | | | What they failed to mention is that they used oxygen-free pure copper coat hangers with 14K gold connectors. |
03-04-2008, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jive1 What they failed to mention is that they used oxygen-free pure copper coat hangers with 14K gold connectors. | LOL! |
03-04-2008, 09:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO | | I know it's fun to bash Monster Cable, but it's worth mentioning that it's completely unverified. If you drill down, you find that the whole article is based on a June 2004(!) post from some anonymous guy on a forum site. He claims he and his brother did this experiment once, but he's got no photos, no video, no documentation, nothing. He doesn't even get around to mentioning it until about the 8th paragraph of his post. And he's only got 7 total posts on the site, so it's not like he has any credibility there: http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...2&postcount=28
We all know that people on forum sites are always completely honest, right? 
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03-04-2008, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Vandelay I know it's fun to bash Monster Cable, but it's worth mentioning that it's completely unverified. | True, but it doesn't NEED to be verified. Millions of people (including my humble self) have poo-pooed the high end cables for years.
The human ear is capable of hearing whatever it WANTS to. The more money people spend on cables, the more they WANT to hear a difference. Q.E.D.
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03-04-2008, 10:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: West Side SA | | | Monster=Waste of Money |
03-04-2008, 10:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilgrim True, but it doesn't NEED to be verified. Millions of people (including my humble self) have poo-pooed the high end cables for years.
The human ear is capable of hearing whatever it WANTS to. The more money people spend on cables, the more they WANT to hear a difference. Q.E.D. | Does that rule apply to basses too? Or tonewoods, or pickups? Why does it only apply to cables?
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03-04-2008, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by halvey The cables added a lot of punch and low end to the recording. | How can a cable possibly add punch and low end to a recording? I suspect that perhaps you also turned up the volume? That would add punch and low end. |
03-04-2008, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim True, but it doesn't NEED to be verified. Millions of people (including my humble self) have poo-pooed the high end cables for years. | I disagree. It does need to be verified, and your opinion doesn't add any validity to the claim. |
03-04-2008, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Vandelay Does that rule apply to basses too? Or tonewoods, or pickups? Why does it only apply to cables? | It applies to any and every sighted evaluation. There is a reason not to believe subjective opinions based on non-blind testing.
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03-04-2008, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Joey3313 I disagree. It does need to be verified, and your opinion doesn't add any validity to the claim. | It's been verified - by physics. We don't need to keep verifying it in every individual case.
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03-04-2008, 10:33 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Detroit | | | My brother rigged his whole rack with Monster Cables, not because of superior audio quality, but because of the 100% replacement warranty. He can throw the cable into a blender, and take it back to Guitarded Center, and they'll replace it. He's done the instant-swap twice, once with an instrument cable that got pinched and once with a speaker cable that got its plug bent to hell from being yanked. Both times, swapped with no questions.
That's the ONLY reason he dumped the money into it. If 5 years down the road his rig catches fire, he can go get his cables completely replaced.
Other than that, HOSA, BABY!!! |
03-04-2008, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Vandelay Does that rule apply to basses too? Or tonewoods, or pickups? Why does it only apply to cables? | Because basses and woods differ susbtantially from one another. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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