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02-03-2012, 02:34 PM
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02-03-2012, 02:52 PM
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02-03-2012, 03:15 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | grrr same for me or I would have. | 
02-03-2012, 03:24 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | Hmm. It's a youtube clip of a kid speaking at TED. | 
02-03-2012, 03:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | | A well informed, well spoken, home schooled young man extols the virtues of organic farming, mentions a mentor and muse in the movement, while adding colorful commentary on the negatives of large scale produce, and meat growing plants and the effects of genetically modified seed stock into the food supply, and a nice parallel proposed where he'd rather pay more for organic foodstuffs ( a common complaint against) comparative to the equivalent price of the resultant healthcare needed from eating these modified, unnatural foodstuffs and their lab-verified potential for disease.
Very good clip.
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02-03-2012, 03:29 PM
|  | Online | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunapee, New Hampshire | | | I thought for sure this thread would be a video of your boy carving up some tasty waves on his new board for the first time.
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02-03-2012, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MJ5150 I thought for sure this thread would be a video of your boy carving up some tasty waves on his new board for the first time.
-Mike | Funny, that was my immediate first thought too.
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02-03-2012, 03:31 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Covina (LA), SoCal | | | Well, c'mon Maki, get to transcribing!
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02-03-2012, 03:58 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | LMAO. I tell you what. You hold your breath and wait until I'm done. Ready? GO!
Hover, did a great job of summarizing it in the meantime. Mike, he couldn't go last week he was sick. We're going to try it out tomorrow.  | 
02-03-2012, 04:16 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Covina (LA), SoCal | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hover A well informed, well spoken, home schooled young man extols the virtues of organic farming, mentions a mentor and muse in the movement, while adding colorful commentary on the negatives of large scale produce, and meat growing plants and the effects of genetically modified seed stock into the food supply, and a nice parallel proposed where he'd rather pay more for organic foodstuffs ( a common complaint against) comparative to the equivalent price of the resultant healthcare needed from eating these modified, unnatural foodstuffs and their lab-verified potential for disease.
Very good clip. | So the kid is just a puppet for his hippie parents? 
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02-03-2012, 06:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | You never know, but the message is still sound. No one listens to hippies, but everyone marvels at well spoken kids.
I keeeeeeeeeed.
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02-03-2012, 08:15 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hover You never know, but the message is still sound. No one listens to hippies, but everyone marvels at well spoken kids.
I keeeeeeeeeed. | about which part.  | 
02-04-2012, 12:32 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern Michigan | | | I agree wholeheartedly with his message. The hormones and crap they pump into our foods isn't natural,and I'm glad to live in a farming community where all my meats and produce are reared or grown as nature intended.
I don't remember anybody being allergic to anything beside poison ivy when I was a kid. Now,damn near every kid needs to live in a bubble until adulthood due to peanut allergies or wheat allergies or what have you.. I've never seen so many 'sickly' kids! I find it hard to believe that somehow,all of a sudden,children stopped having immune systems..I also find it hard to believe that nobody sees that before all the genetic engineering,kids thrived on peanut butter and dirt,and were only allergic to math tests! | 
02-04-2012, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MatticusMania So the kid is just a puppet for his hippie parents?  | Definitely a puppet for a cause, but at the same time, the argument isn't bad.
Frankly, this is just the tip of the iceberg of how harmful Monsanto as a corporation is. | 
02-04-2012, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hover A well informed, well spoken, home schooled young man extols the virtues of organic farming, mentions a mentor and muse in the movement, while adding colorful commentary on the negatives of large scale produce, and meat growing plants and the effects of genetically modified seed stock into the food supply, and a nice parallel proposed where he'd rather pay more for organic foodstuffs ( a common complaint against) comparative to the equivalent price of the resultant healthcare needed from eating these modified, unnatural foodstuffs and their lab-verified potential for disease.
Very good clip. | Well informed???
I admit I did not finish watching the clip. I found the kid creepy in his regurgitation of what others asked him to say. He is 11. Easily manipulated. A gimmick for the cause. I find that distasteful.
When he went on about fish genes in a tomato, about it being unnatural and "yuck" and cancer-causing... he lost me.
My rear end is better informed.
Then again, I am 43, a molecular biologist, and many years ago I did work in agricultural projects, so I know a thing or two even if my research nowadays is purely medical/human/basic cell biology.
The kicker is... I do not like Monsanto one bit. Oh no. I dislike a lot of what they do, not everything, them and other companies. But this kid's presentation... is a poor attempt to bring a message that has some value, but it's packaged in propaganda without respect for truths, and that makes me sicker than Monsanto.
Epic fail if you want information.
Win only if preaching to the choir.
What's the use?
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02-04-2012, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by funkingroovin I agree wholeheartedly with his message. The hormones and crap they pump into our foods isn't natural,and I'm glad to live in a farming community where all my meats and produce are reared or grown as nature intended.
I don't remember anybody being allergic to anything beside poison ivy when I was a kid. Now,damn near every kid needs to live in a bubble until adulthood due to peanut allergies or wheat allergies or what have you.. I've never seen so many 'sickly' kids! I find it hard to believe that somehow,all of a sudden,children stopped having immune systems..I also find it hard to believe that nobody sees that before all the genetic engineering,kids thrived on peanut butter and dirt,and were only allergic to math tests! | Allergies are not the result of the lack of an immune system: all the opposite!
It's an immune system acting aggressively against something that it should normally not attack.
Why is this? Ha. If I had the answer I'd be famous ;-)
But one of the ideas that is gaining favour is that as we lead "cleaner" lives, our immune system is not working so hard most of the time. However it evolved over a long time while we were constantly battling bugs in food and water, infections, and probably parasites too. So while we evolved an immune system that was normally reasonably active, keeping stuff at bay, now it is underutilised. And Sometimes it just goes out of control against some harmless proteins found naturally in the environment.
Some interesting work is going on in the subject, sparked by the observation that parasitic infection reduced allergy symptoms in certain people. It's a bit odd at first, especially when you read about some people ingesting parasitic worm eggs as therapy... ugh... but read beyond that and find the actual science. There's one group at my university working on that, in Edinburgh.
Google
Allergy parasitic worms
And that will be a good starting point.
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02-04-2012, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mcnach Allergies are not the result of the lack of an immune system: all the opposite!
It's an immune system acting aggressively against something that it should normally not attack. | Agreed. I didn't literally mean 'no immune system'..I should've said 'under-worked' or 'under-developed'..or perhaps 'over-developed' depending on POV. Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnach But one of the ideas that is gaining favour is that as we lead "cleaner" lives, our immune system is not working so hard most of the time. | Exactly. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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