|  | | 
05-30-2010, 09:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | | AYo, car dudes...some opinions please
Sign in to disble this ad
Ok, so I was having a discussion with some friends today about the state of the automotive industry...not about bailouts, or US vs. Imports or anything, but about what models, made in the past, say, 15-20 years will actually endure in such a way that in another 10-20 years, people would actually consider restoring them as "classics"...
I contend that the era of really collectible, sought after examples ended in the mid eighties, going so far as to suggest that whether or not cars are "much better than they used to be" tech-wise has completely DILUTED what once gave cars their charm, and that what once was a proud industry is just one-upsmanship flying in the face of basic primal lust for the machine.
So I ask of you, TB folk who dig on cars, what would you consider examples of cars you truly honestly feel fit the bill?
I am not talking niche vehicles like retro stuff PT cruiser wannabe Ford Tbird nonsense. I'm also not talking about tongue in cheek resurgence like the love affair with old cavaliers with boy-racers with trust funds and the like...I'm talking REAL cars.
I say there are really none. certainly not Lexus, or Infiniti or any of the upper tier stuff like the plastic Caddy garbage. And the new Camaro Charger nonsense either. that is cheating.
What say you?
__________________
Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the Moon.
|
05-30-2010, 09:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia | | | Subaru Outbacks will be running long after things have hit the crusher.
__________________
Returned in a limited capacity due to noise
|
05-30-2010, 09:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderscreech  Subaru Outbacks will be running long after things have hit the crusher. | Yeah, but I don't think "car guys" are gonna be swarming in droves to car part swap meets for Outback trim and body panels. So....nope. Oh yeah, and I know you drive one. Take bias out of the equation.
__________________
Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the Moon.
|
05-30-2010, 09:22 PM
|  | OVNIFX
EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Honda Prelude? "New" Beetle? New Mini? |
05-30-2010, 09:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | | Funny, I actually discussed the prelude, and came to the conclusion that the DelSol, while just a 2 seater civic, might be more desirable. I really like the mini...do you think it was cashing too much in on the retro craze, or do you think they made a cool old car that much better for its reimagining? I think the latter. Such a fun car. good call.
One of the ones on my list of contenders was the BMW M3. / 325 series from the mid-late 80's. CLASSIC lines, great motor, unreal chassis.
__________________
Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the Moon.
|
05-30-2010, 09:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia | | | Ford Mustangs
__________________
Returned in a limited capacity due to noise
|
05-30-2010, 09:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderscreech Ford Mustangs | I'll agree on that, it's a given, but honestly, the preceding 3 generations were abysmal. it's like it went late 80's 5.0 > crap>roundier crap>pointier headlight-tailight crap> retro revival nice car.
__________________
Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the Moon.
|
05-30-2010, 09:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Listowel/KW Ontario | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hover Funny, I actually discussed the prelude, and came to the conclusion that the DelSol, while just a 2 seater civic, might be more desirable. I really like the mini...do you think it was cashing too much in on the retro craze, or do you think they made a cool old car that much better for its reimagining? I think the latter. Such a fun car. good call.
One of the ones on my list of contenders was the BMW M3. / 325 series from the mid-late 80's. CLASSIC lines, great motor, unreal chassis. | I agree on the DelSol, the mini and the M3.
lowsound
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by username n/a How is a picture of me feeling up a stranger music related? | |
05-30-2010, 09:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hover I'll agree on that, it's a given, but honestly, the preceding 3 generations were abysmal. it's like it went late 80's 5.0 > crap>roundier crap>pointier headlight-tailight crap> retro revival nice car. | At least they brought the 5.0 back
__________________
Returned in a limited capacity due to noise
|
05-30-2010, 09:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderscreech At least they brought the 5.0 back | tru dat...the 5.4 is a doozy too.
another on my list, obvious as it may be, is the Corvette.
One you might sneeze at is the Honda Element.
__________________
Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the Moon.
|
05-30-2010, 10:37 PM
| | OVNIFX
EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Sneeze for sure! The Element is not a patch on the current Rav4... and even as a fan of the Rav4 I don't quite think it qualifies as a "future classic". |
05-30-2010, 11:40 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | The Mustang, and especially the Challenger and Camaro, will be collectible. ANy time a car goes out and comes back...it will be.
The T-Bird re-issue isn't collectible today, but wait 15 years.
There are a few specialized performance versions like the Lightning pickups that probably will be.
__________________
"...awesome as a monkey wearing a tuxedo made of bacon, riding on a unicorn!'"
|
05-30-2010, 11:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas | | | The small portion of Diamond Star creations (1990-1999 Eclipse, Talon, Laser) that aren't abused and poorly maintained. |
05-31-2010, 12:18 AM
| | OVNIFX
EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | What about the '05-'08 Dodge Magnum w/hemi, or the Chrysler 300C? |
05-31-2010, 01:42 AM
| | | | You take any vehicle and sit on it long enough and keep it in excellent shape and it will become a classic.
__________________
Music Man and Ibanez basses.
crystavox.com
|
05-31-2010, 05:04 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Ralston You take any vehicle and sit on it long enough and keep it in excellent shape and it will become a classic. | but that isn't what I was asking. I was asking for examples of cars that for their design or whatever would bring out the real "oooh yeah I gotta restore that" type feeling out of a large group of people....much in the same way the Bel Air endured...the kind where someone, 40 years down the road, wouldn't blink an eye at dropping two grand on a piece of pristine trim to complete "that classic"...
Another on my list, obviously, is the Jeep Wrangler. Not so much the current version, but really...this car is an icon, and kinda transcends the future "what if"...it's classic already. And with that, I tip my hat to the Cherokee & GRAND Wagoneer. The most classic examples of the more recent "original" suv, before that term was even coined (of course the Bronco & Suburban preceded it, but they already have been restored in droves)....in a way the "grand Cherokee" will never be lusted after.
__________________
Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the Moon.
Last edited by hover : 05-31-2010 at 05:07 AM.
|
05-31-2010, 06:26 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Eh? | | The Pontiac Solstice. It was a pretty good success, it's built on the compact Kappa platform, which has shown some great promises (see Vauxhall VX). However, sales have stopped and those who want to keep theirs will start buying others for parts. In ten years from now the Solstice will probably be a rarity.
DeLorean had shown interest in restarting the now closed factory, in which case it might not become rare, after all.
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by tom once dead Also to prove my Australianism, I've been stung by an irukandji jellyfish before, while snorkelling at an island looking at stingrays. | |
05-31-2010, 06:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | | Interesting!
Another on my list was the Mazda Miata, which I consider today's MGB.
__________________
Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the Moon.
|
05-31-2010, 06:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Eh? | | | Oh, MANY generations of the Nissan Skyline will make it too.
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by tom once dead Also to prove my Australianism, I've been stung by an irukandji jellyfish before, while snorkelling at an island looking at stingrays. | |
05-31-2010, 06:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amherst, MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by L-A Oh, MANY generations of the Nissan Skyline will make it too. | +1...actually, all the generations (including the G35 and G37) of Skyline will make it.
__________________
|Tune-K|Schecter|Peavey|EHX|Digitech|DOD|Dunlop|Boss Quote:
Originally Posted by cheezewiz Settle down Festus. | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off | | | |
