Bass To Be Used For Law Enforcement

[fhm555]

Just saw this on yahoo and looked it up.

Rumbler - Sirens | Federal Signal

Apparently chest thumping, window rattling bass on the street is about to go from general annoyance to official annoyance.

[Jim Nazium]

Oh man, I hope that doesn't catch on.

[jp58]

To be fair, it's only 100 or 200 watts. Most systems that are capable of window rattling are much larger, typically 500-1000 watts.

Also, I really hope it doesn't stick either. I hate my windows being rattled enough already. It's just what I need for a cop to shake them too.

[elgecko]

I thought this thread was about cheezewiz.

[fenderhutz]

I thought this was referencing the brown note when I saw the title. Carry on.

[Phendyr_Loon]

Originally Posted by fenderhutz

I thought this was referencing the brown note when I saw the title. Carry on.

Haw haw.

Well the traffic congestion has been clear from the intersection making it passable for emergency vehicles......... but now I've just crapped myself.

No no even better!

Evil doers beware! If the shock from our tazzers or the charge of the K-9 unit doesn't make you release your bowels, our police sirens will make you poop fo' sho.

Ok. Now I'm done.

[tastybasslines]

How exactly does it clear intersections? I'm not sure I get this concept.

[Stilettoprefer]

seems like it wouldnt do anything... just make people think that an earthquake is happening MAYBE. 200 watts isnt enough to effectively rattle an entire intersection. and the people with their stereos loud enough to ignore regular sirens, usually also have the bass cranked and wouldnt notice the extra rattling of their car that is going on.

you would also risk structural damage of surrounding buildings if there was enough vibration to make an intersection full of people notice it.

[jp58]

Much in the same way that the Donkey Kong ground pound works.

[cheezewiz]

I wonder if I could get the department to buy me an SVT VR and a matching 810AV?

[TheSuzie]

Originally Posted by cheezewiz

I wonder if I could get the department to buy me an SVT VR, a matching 810AV and one hell of a huge extension cord?

fixed

[R. Laevinus]

I read about it a while back in WIRED magazine. I think the idea is to signal to drivers that are on the phone/eating/applying makeup/listening to really loud music/stoned/drunk/making out, or otherwise distracted, that there is a cop that wants their attention.

[Jhengsman]

Originally Posted by tastybasslines

How exactly does it clear intersections? I'm not sure I get this concept.

Most modern cars are so soundproofed that normal siren frequencies do not get through. People have closed windows and air conditioning on full time and drivers don't react to sirens like they did two generations ago. So the low bass frequencies are used so you feel it. However most would probably think some kid just has a loud car sound system and not react

[L-A]

Originally Posted by jp58

To be fair, it's only 100 or 200 watts. Most systems that are capable of window rattling are much larger, typically 500-1000 watts.

Also, I really hope it doesn't stick either. I hate my windows being rattled enough already. It's just what I need for a cop to shake them too.

I'm pretty sure a frequency-specific 200 watt system can make your ears beg for help.

[jmattbassplaya]

Originally Posted by Jhengsman

Most modern cars are so soundproofed that normal siren frequencies do not get through. People have closed windows and air conditioning on full time and drivers don't react to sirens like they did two generations ago. So the low bass frequencies are used so you feel it. However most would probably think some kid just has a loud car sound system and not react

That's what I'm thinking.

It's kinda the same as motorcycles with super loud mufflers. You try to implement something to get certain people's attention for safety reasons, but it ends up being ineffective and just a bother to innocent bystanders.

[Jay Ralston]

I can see a lot of angry citizens over this. So if a Police Officer pulls a person over at 1:00am isn't that going to be a noise ordinance violation? If it's in a neighborhood, how many citizens will be woken up in the middle of the night?

I am very pro Police but I don't think this was a very well thought out plan. Lights and Sirens have been working well enough for years. If it's not broke, don't try and fix it. Heck, in most cases, unless it's a felony stop, only lights are used and then if the person does not pull over, then the sirens are used until the person does pull over. That has always worked. This is just a bad idea.

[jmattbassplaya]

I'd hate to be the cop driving one of those cares.

[TXLawDawg]

Originally Posted by Jay Ralston

I can see a lot of angry citizens over this. So if a Police Officer pulls a person over at 1:00am isn't that going to be a noise ordinance violation? If it's in a neighborhood, how many citizens will be woken up in the middle of the night?

No different than sirens now? Most agencies have policies regarding the use of a siren in a residential area unless certain circumstances exist. One could only assume that this would follow the same principal.

Originally Posted by Jay Ralston

I am very pro Police but I don't think this was a very well thought out plan. Lights and Sirens have been working well enough for years. If it's not broke, don't try and fix it. Heck, in most cases, unless it's a felony stop, only lights are used and then if the person does not pull over, then the sirens are used until the person does pull over. That has always worked. This is just a bad idea.

I wouldn't say that lights and sirens have been working well for years because they haven't. They've been adequate at best.

Personally, I don't know what else you could put on a car to be noticed. Having the former responsibilities of fleet management, I can tell you that agencies are always looking for better ways to equip squad cars so that they can be seen and heard. After around 55-60 mph, the siren becomes essentially useless in being able to warn others of an approaching emergency vehicle. Studies have shown that the addition of too many flashing lights can cause confusion rather than alert.

The other aspect you have to look at here is liability. Agencies have to consider the threat of lawsuits when anyone uses any kind of emergency equipment. The idea is that every little bit could help the agency in saying that they did everything they could to warn motorists of an approaching emergency vehicle. I'm not saying I necessarily think this thing will work or is a good idea but it's a thought in trying to help folks snap out of their daze while driving.

Those that don't deal with law enforcement frequently (hey, that's a good thing ) often only think of the use of this equipment in what they have seen - traffic stops. The idea behind all of this equipment is warning - not getting a vehicle to pull to the side of the road - though, it's used in that function. If that person doesn't stop and you end up in a pursuit situation, you're wanting that emergency equipment to warn other drivers of an approaching danger. When running to a call that requires emergency response, those lights and sirens are there to help warn people that the squad car is there and needing to get somewhere.

I know that anyone who has ever driven an emergency vehicle knows that sirens, bells, whistles and all the lights you can put on a vehicle are never 100% effective - far from it under most circumstances. So, every little bit helps when you're trying to warn that family of four traveling down the road oblivious to what's going on around them.

[Downunderwonder]

Frequency Ranges: 182 to 400 Hz

It's designed to take the regular siren signal and give it some more guts.

[NateS]

Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

Frequency Ranges: 182 to 400 Hz

It's designed to take the regular siren signal and give it some more guts.

kinda like dubstep? take a synth line and repeat it 1 / 2 octaves lower?