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12-12-2008, 12:56 PM
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"...In actuality there was only a handful of real hip swinging cats and what there was vanished mightily swiftly during the Korean War when (and after) a sinister new kind of efficiency appeared in America, maybe it was the result of the universalization of Television and nothing else (the Polite Total Police Control of Dragnet's 'peace' officers) but the beat characters after 1950 vanished into jails and madhouses, or were shamed into silent conformity, the generation itself was shortlived and small in number."
-Kerouac
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12-12-2008, 01:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC | | Crap. Jack was the Cat!
Does this mean Maynard G. Krebbs was a phony????  |
12-12-2008, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TheoFly  Crap. Jack was the Cat!
Does this mean Maynard G. Krebbs was a phony???? | you got it, daddy'o
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12-12-2008, 01:43 PM
| | Member | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | I HATE Kerouac. Terrible writer. Bland, bland, bland. I know people will flame me for it but so help me god if another person praises "On The Road" again I'm going to reach through the internet and ***** slap them.
"And we were like, beat, man. We just went from place to place surviving each day as it came, always on the brink, with no direction. Until I ran out of money. Then the direction I headed was for my aunt's house, to borrow more money from her, because in truth I was a useless sack and went crying to mommy anytime my road trip started to suck" 
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Originally Posted by fitbass3p Sir, without any exaggeration, that is the nicest looking bass that I have ever laid eyes on. Congrats. | |
12-12-2008, 01:45 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | The only thing that Kerouac that was worth anything was introduce the world to Allen Ginsberg, and the only thing Ginsberg did that was worth anything was to write Howl. Outside of William Burroughs, the Beats were a bunch of pretentious proto-hipsters who deluded and misled many otherwise outstanding writers into subverting their natural talents and enthusiasm for black turtlenecks and icy demeanors.
I spit on Kerouac. 
Full Disclosure: On The Road is a great piece of writing. That's not disputable. You may not like it, but its unquestionably good. |
12-12-2008, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Deluge Of Sound The only thing that Kerouac that was worth anything was introduce the world to Allen Ginsberg, and the only thing Ginsberg did that was worth anything was to write Howl. Outside of William Burroughs, the Beats were a bunch of pretentious proto-hipsters who deluded and misled many otherwise outstanding writers into subverting their natural talents and enthusiasm for black turtlenecks and icy demeanors.
I spit on Kerouac. | Yay
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Originally Posted by fitbass3p Sir, without any exaggeration, that is the nicest looking bass that I have ever laid eyes on. Congrats. | |
12-12-2008, 01:48 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | | I ninja-edited in a full disclosure, after I read your post, man. I don't like Kerouac, but you can't say he couldn't write. |
12-12-2008, 01:51 PM
| | Member | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | | I dispute on the road. The more I read the more I found myself shouting out "Oh give me a BREAK!"
It had it's entertaining moments, but it was overshadowed by his pretentions.
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Originally Posted by fitbass3p Sir, without any exaggeration, that is the nicest looking bass that I have ever laid eyes on. Congrats. | |
12-12-2008, 01:54 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | | You're not wrong, but its still extremely well-written.
My problem with Kerouac is solely in the realm of the 20-somethings who've taken up On The Road as some sort of Bible. The Beat Generation produced a couple of really good books, the best poem ever written (in my opinion), and the groundwork for the pretentious hipster culture. |
12-12-2008, 01:56 PM
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12-12-2008, 02:01 PM
| | Member | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | | I agree with you on all counts, but I still maintain his writing, at least On The Road, was bland. Of course, that's just my opinion. No doubt my opinion is also biased by the fact that I hate the ideals set forth in the book. Lazy hipster trash.. grumble mutter...good for nothin... grumble....
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Originally Posted by fitbass3p Sir, without any exaggeration, that is the nicest looking bass that I have ever laid eyes on. Congrats. | |
12-12-2008, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheoFly | That's not actually accurate:
The bobble head of Kerouac would've had a copy of On The Road, and been sitting at a bar, demanding that people buy him drinks because, and I quote, "[he] wrote On The Road!" |
12-12-2008, 02:17 PM
| | Member | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | | No no, when he runs out of money he cells home for more, remember?
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Originally Posted by fitbass3p Sir, without any exaggeration, that is the nicest looking bass that I have ever laid eyes on. Congrats. | |
12-12-2008, 02:25 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | I'm talking about end-of-life Kerouac, not spring-of-his-youth Kerouac.  |
12-12-2008, 02:32 PM
| | | Wow, it's been a year since I first read On the Road, and I dug it.  Perhaps I should pick up Dharma Bums while I'm on Christmas break.
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12-12-2008, 02:37 PM
| | Member | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Deluge Of Sound I'm talking about end-of-life Kerouac, not spring-of-his-youth Kerouac. | In which case he would be calling his agent instead of his aunt 
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Originally Posted by fitbass3p Sir, without any exaggeration, that is the nicest looking bass that I have ever laid eyes on. Congrats. | |
12-12-2008, 03:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern Virginia | | | By the power vested in me by the late Jan I here-by declare all of you Kerouac haters officially LAME ...(and square).
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12-12-2008, 03:04 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | Why don't you just go back to making basses  |
12-12-2008, 03:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern Virginia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Deluge Of Sound Why don't you just go back to making basses | nope, I'm going on the road to drink myself to death (heterosexually, of course!).
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12-12-2008, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LiquidMidnight Wow, it's been a year since I first read On the Road, and I dug it. Perhaps I should pick up Dharma Bums while I'm on Christmas break. | Dharma Bums is one of his best by far. Turned my onto buddhism and made me a different person. Very inspiring, so much so that I have Dharma Bum tatted on my shoulder.
On the Road is a great introductory to Kerouac, but nowhere near his best work.
Desolation Angels is also the shiznit.
Visions of Cody is a hard read.
You Kerouac haters have no soul. Deluge and T.O. bass are officially off my christmas list, no beat poems for you!
Ok, just this one...
I could become a great grinning ghost
like a skeleton
Hung up in Heaven
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