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03-08-2010, 03:46 PM
|  | Analyzer Records Endorsing Artist: Mesa/Boogie - Shop Manager/Tech, SF Guitarworks | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | Black Eyed Peas tour update: I'm off.
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Once again, I've been bumped off the BEP tour.
As I understand it, Ludacris wasn't happy with the situation of us being on the tour, taking up some of his stage space and inputs on the board, and threatened to pull out of the tour. Schedules were juggled, concessions were made, and now Prototype will go on as a trio without the backing band. They don't want to perform without us, but I understand that these kind of opportunities don't come often, and I agree that they should carry on.
Although I get the gist of the situation, it's still hard to not feel left out. I could have been performing in front of 30,000 people a night, and now that whole plan has been ruined by "the business". Weak, man. Weak.
If this is how the pop music business regularly works, I'm done with it. Done. | 
03-08-2010, 03:50 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern New Jersey | | | I get the feeling you're living the life of a yo-yo. Sorry to hear the tour is 'off' again for you... hopefully something else, hopefully something better, will turn up!
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03-08-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Strange If this is how the pop music business regularly works, I'm done with it. Done. | Incase you missed the memo, pop music IS a buisness, and buisness are interested in one thing...
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03-08-2010, 04:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Central FL | | | Well this is just Ludacris !!! Sux man. | 
03-08-2010, 04:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Here we are... | | That really sucks man.
Prima donna non-musicians and their egos. 
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03-08-2010, 04:09 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Columbus, Ohio | | | There's always smokey jazz clubs looking for bassists.
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03-08-2010, 04:29 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | | Wow, what a bummer. | 
03-08-2010, 04:33 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Central Alabama | | | Gosh, how many inputs would he need for a turntable ? He sucks! | 
03-08-2010, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinsok Gosh, how many inputs would he need for a turntable ? He sucks! | +1 | 
03-08-2010, 05:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Waco, TX | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinsok Gosh, how many inputs would he need for a turntable ? He sucks! | Nah, he saw that Outkast had actual musicians so he had to have some too.
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03-08-2010, 05:13 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | pfft. Very lame indeed. | 
03-08-2010, 05:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | | damnit all. I mean really. I'm so sorry to hear this.
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03-08-2010, 06:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Your location can be this long | | | You've got to be kidding! They did this to you again?
Does your band's budget have room for hiring a full-time lawyer?
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03-08-2010, 06:26 PM
|  | Analyzer Records Endorsing Artist: Mesa/Boogie - Shop Manager/Tech, SF Guitarworks | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by nutso42 You've got to be kidding! They did this to you again?
Does your band's budget have room for hiring a full-time lawyer? | Prototype is still going on - just without the live band. | 
03-08-2010, 06:37 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | You would think a tour like BEP would have pretty much an infinite amount of channels available for bands. What a lame excuse. | 
03-08-2010, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar You would think a tour like BEP would have pretty much an infinite amount of channels available for bands. What a lame excuse. | huge +1. that is probably the worst reason I could come up with to cut people from a tour.
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03-08-2010, 06:49 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Orleans | | | Weak sauce.
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03-08-2010, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar You would think a tour like BEP would have pretty much an infinite amount of channels available for bands. What a lame excuse. | Quote:
Originally Posted by blendermassacre huge +1. that is probably the worst reason I could come up with to cut people from a tour. | Actually, the Catch-22 for huge mega-popular acts is that because they can sell so many tickets the promoters are extremely rigid about how many seats can be "sacrificed" (sic) for the FOH gear. Ironically, if it were a second or third tier act playing 2,000 seat theaters thay probably wouldn't care if they lose two or three more seats just so they can squeeze in a second console or an expander to accomodate the warmup act. But with a top-10 act like BEP they want to sell as many tix for as huge a premium as possible, so they're usually reluctant to sacrifice any square footage that isn't absolutely mandatory. I've heard of promoters attempting to dictate what console the FOH guy mixes on based sheerly on the small footprint of a particular desk!
I agree it's a total crappy excuse...but it's not coming from the sound guys, it's coming from management. | 
03-08-2010, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover Actually, the Catch-22 for huge mega-popular acts is that because they can sell so many tickets the promoters are extremely rigid about how many seats can be "sacrificed" (sic) for the FOH gear. Ironically, if it were a second or third tier act playing 2,000 seat theaters thay probably wouldn't care if they lose two or three more seats just so they can squeeze in a second console or an expander to accomodate the warmup act. But with a top-10 act like BEP they want to sell as many tix for as huge a premium as possible, so they're usually reluctant to sacrifice any square footage that isn't absolutely mandatory. I've heard of promoters attempting to dictate what console the FOH guy mixes on based sheerly on the small footprint of a particular desk!
I agree it's a total crappy excuse...but it's not coming from the sound guys, it's coming from management. | considering the board is probably backstage, I don't see this as an excuse. It's a bs reason to get someone's agenda through.
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03-08-2010, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DigMe Nah, he saw that Outkast had actual musicians so he had to have some too.
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There is just one problem.. Not one person/group can be like Outkast. Ever. 
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